Expert Naultinus breeder question. Housing extremely complicated?

supperl · #1 01-04-2009, 03:30 PM

Okay I have a question to all you nice ppl out their housing Naultinus.
I lately had a discussion with someone in a German forum about housing these Geckos.
Someone asked for breeders and first he had to hear was "You don´t have enought knowledge for them".

I than said I think if you have enought time to prepare on them and talk to breeders and ppl housing them to achieve knowledge you should be able to house the meven if you only have 1.1 lygodactylus williamensis to that time.

Answere was basically that it isn´t that easy and you can´t house them only due to knowlede bye housing a few Leopardgeckos or nephrurus.

What do you breeders here think? If someone has a talk with 2-3 breeders maybe visiting them at home.... I mean shouldn´t it be pos. to house them then.... everyone starts at zero right?

THX for reading and hopefully replying.

ciliatus · #2 02-23-2009, 06:48 PM

Reading the multiple answers to your question could lead one to think people are not of your opinion.
I wish you good luck finding 2-3 breeders, that invite you home to show you their stock and tell you anything you need to know about Naultinus ssp.

Geitje · #3 02-23-2009, 07:43 PM

My brain hurts from tying to understand this! Am I the only one

Dendro_Dave · #4 02-23-2009, 09:51 PM

Ok lets see if i can translate

He was participating in a discussion on this species in a German forum. One of the OTHER people in the discussion is trying to get some of these geckos, but was told he didnt have enough experience. Our guy was of the opinion that if this other person could get good information from keepers of this species and had adequate time/materials to set up good housing then they should be fine even if they had only kept a pair of lygodactylus williamsi. Whats not especially clear is if that is the only experience this person has keeping various reptiles and amphibians, especially geckos.

My personal opinion is that if they did have access to good info, and adequate housing and time to prepare they probably would be "OK"....

BUT with such a rare and sought after species i would not blame any breeder for holding on to them till they could be sold/given to someone who is currently keeping that species, has past experience with them or similar species or just has ALOT of prior experience keeping herps and amphibs. Expierence administering medications or giving basic vet care to herps or amphibs would be a bonus ofcourse.

I doubt many people with Naultinus are gonna have trouble unloading them though, so why not send em to the best home possible...i think thats what a responsible breeder would do...but also if someone already has some or is getting some regardless, it would be nice if other breeders were kind enough to share experience/help so that they have the best chances of success possible. Also any breeder telling someone they arent ready or that they will not sell something to someone should be atleast polite about it...unless the other party is being an ass...and no i dont think just asking qualifies as being an ass.

Chris3004 · #5 02-24-2009, 03:19 AM

Well, actually the answer wasn't "You don't have enough knowledge for them!" but "According to your questions raised in this forum, you don't have the necessary experience!". I remember, cause I was the one who wrote it and I based this on questions of the guy like "What does 1.0 mean?" and "Do Leopardgeckos like to take a bath?".

I still believe reptiles like Naultinus should stay with some more experienced keepers, but that's just my opinion.

Cheers!
Chris

mario · #6 02-24-2009, 04:29 AM

i think chris is right - when someone ask for what 1.0 mean etc. i don´t think that he has enough knowledge to keep such rare species like naultinus. i don´t think that naultinus are difficult to keep - the only thing that might be difficult is to breed them

. but that´s only what i think....

alecfeldman · #7 02-24-2009, 07:06 PM

Is it just me or do Naultinus cost $10 in Europe? How do so many people have them? I've been in this hobby for 25+ years and have only seen these animals 2 times in my life.

I would think that someone of your limited knowledge (no offense, but that is the case) should start with understanding some other lesser, gecko "models" .... then move on to something mid level, then a little bit more difficult, then down the line maybe if you want to make an investment in a pair of Naultinus geckos, instead of, lets say buying a new car or traveling for a month, then at that time, I would get into those animals. This is strictly my opinion. I am basing this on many years of frustration with much lesser species and loss of some very expensive animals along the way, due to my own lack of knowledge at the time. Though it is certainly impossible to know everything about all the species... knowledge + time = enough experience to better succeed at not killing something very cool.

My 2 cents.