[Elizabeth Freer]

Hey Oli ~

Great to see that you're getting out and about AND spreading the word (but not too far) !!!

[PassPort]

Nice article!

[GeckoTom]

Well, not much new news in this report, not much new when you knew the experiences of keepers.

Plastic plants ... well to keep one of this jewells right it needs more than that!

Read:Rowlands' 1999 edition of New Zealand Geckos and
Joan Robb's 1986 New Zealand Amphibians and Reptiles
then you have double information of keeping and breeding than in this short paper
to the german speaking members I recomment Hermann Seufers writing in Dactylus!

Nothingf about the danger of moist substrate, of becoming bacteria or fungi deseases

nothing about lighting time over the year or temperature over the year

There is really a detailed source of information! Just find it!

Best
Tom

[oli]

I'm not sure why but I'm sensing that you seem a little angry, perhaps even unhappy about something? Please explain your position honestly. In response to whether there is any new information for the experienced keeper? Obviously not, that article wasn't for directed towards the experienced keeper, nor was it titled 'Naultinus grayii, breakthrough husbandry for the experienced keeper and breeder'. It wasn't supposed to be comprehensive considering word count limitations and the fact that it was an article and not a book. Temperatures and lighting information is easily found either on climate tables or local weather websights which if you are interested in Tom, you can go to google and type in local climates for Whangarei or another NZ town close to where the specie originates to find records dating back decades and ending at the present date. Seasons, months, yearly high's and low's, precipitation figures, ambient humidity during all hours of the day, all months of the year, graphs, and much more helpful information is also included. I'm not studying the animals in their native New Zealand or writing a disertation on their husbandry or care so no unfortunately I do not have any new ground breaking care information for the official voice of naultinus, which has been very quiet at best. Perhaps I can suggest that you provide a detailed care sheet for specific naultinus species for this forum as your experience would likely benefit many. The books you mentioned are alright, but they are also very vague and they too leave the reader a lot of questions, and therefore I wouldn't define them as detailed sources of information by any means. I think this just brings us back to the fact that experience is indeed the best teacher. I have a hard time believing that keeping the jewels is as complex as you are implying, but since you have read the title of that article you must have noticed that it specified Naultinus Grayii, not the broad genus of Naultinus alone. Yea, and Tom in response to the positive and enlightening feedback I don't think you recognized the general point of the article, so if you need it translated into German for your better understanding I would be more than happy to do that for you. The dangers of moist and wet substrate in regards to fungal or bacterial problems is something that can apply to many reptile species and is almost an obvious statement. I wouldn't recommend a wet substrate for any reptile as moisture alone is a breeding ground for harmful micro organisms. Not that my naultinus even spend close to as much as .01% of their time near the substrate anyways it seems to be a topic that is known to effect naultinus, and can usually be remedied if caught early enough with decreasing humidity and increasing the temperatures a little in the enclosure. I hope I covered a little of what you are trying to prove, or the point that you are trying to make here.

[GeckoTom]

Hello

well I think I am quite sure to get the point of the paper, but maybe I overread something.

I think that they are not as easy to keep and breed and lots of people might agree!

A lot of people lost animals to this skin deseases I mentioned and even to wrong UV lamps. Even lot rarer species than grayii. Reptiles of NZ are very sensible to this infections, the difficulty is to have a high air humidity and a very low surface humidity. So it should be always spryed in the morning to help dry up at daytime.

It is that I was upset about you also not mentioning that keeping them for most of the time outside is also highly recommended from breeders that have bred this animals for some generations now.

I didnt want to be rude, just mentioning that a lot more information could be found that is quite some time old and much more detailed. Do you know the mentioned papers?

From as guy that keeps and breeds them for some years and generations, as seems from the comments, I expected more details.
regards
Tom

[bombax1212]

Oli,

Thanks for the great article on the Naultinus grayii. It is nice to have some information about this species to go along with some of the pictures that get posted here. Really makes me appreciate the diversity of the gecko family.

[GenaVorn]

Any information about this rare species is important and very valuable for succesfull keeping and breeding in captivity.Especially , if this expirience comes from the "first hand " .
Oli , good job man ! Continue good job.Thanks man !

[j_izzle8930]

I thought the article was very good for something basic. I have been fasinated with grayii but like Oli never planned on being able to work with them so I never looked into their husbandry. I thought it was really cool that they are live bearers! I found the information given interesting and the article well written.

Also, Im pretty sure people dont go to gecko time, reptile channel, or the other random article sites that give half a page of information on a species to find detailed husbandry and breeding information on thousand dollar geckos. Just sayin.

[reptilescreek]

Ok I am coming in at the sharp end here and maybe sticking my nose in but and lets be very honest with each other here on the internet and written in books is a lot of different and contradictary information about keeping all reptiles !!!!! and surely the aim of the forums is to bring those people with experience and those people looking for the experience together
In the country I live there are many a group of people (shall remain anonymous) that would love to see exotic pets band from being kept by ordinary people like all of us here I think sometimes we need to hold back a little on our comments and think about it what one person has written about Henkeli's for instnace on how he keeps his may not be what I would agree with or do , but I am open to comment and advice so come on people lets think before we go airing our views the forums are for learning ! surely private messages are where you air your view if you dont agree with everything said

[acpart]

Just to clarify the point of the Gecko Time articles: you're absolutely correct that we are not putting out care sheets or detailed care articles. Even the articles in Reptiles Magazine are more detailed than what we put out. We really aim to regularly publish an article each week on a wide variety of topics that will interest different people. If you look at the "archived" list you'll see that our range is pretty wide. When I ask people to do a species profile, I emphasize that I'm looking for an article that has some care info, but also personal info about the writer's reactions to keeping the species in question. I see the article as a stepping stone to raising interest which should be followed by a "visit" to Google or to these forums.

Incidentally, if anyone is interested in writing an article about any aspect of geckos (it can be pretty crazy --I was briefly considering writing an article about green and red geckos for Christmas week), we love submissions. Just send me a PM.

Aliza
Gecko Time co-editor