Lygodactylus Williamsi morphs?

The_Greg · #1 10-12-2009, 03:50 PM

Browsing Kingsnake classifieds...

This williamsi has more black spotting than I've seen on any other. Anyone have reasons or speculation on this?

Airedale · #2 10-12-2009, 07:34 PM

I think it is more of a genetic variance, than an actual morph. I've heard of people who apparently have some that look almost purple, but I think it is just when they are or are not "fired" up. The black could just be blood lines, and it seems that they are the only part of the pattern that can really actually be varied. Sorry, a little bit rambly.

VICtort · #3 10-14-2009, 10:36 AM

I agree that specimen is an unusual pattern. However, I would want to see it next to others and under the same conditions, and see if it retains that pattern. Maybe it is just unusual, but still within the category of "normal"? Maybe it comes from an isolated population, distinct from where most imports/orignial breeding stock came from? It is hard to say where some of these are coming from, and our information on them is sketchy. Are there others like it in the same shipment? I would expect or not be surprised to see some variations on the theme appear as more breedings (and in-breedings...) take place over time. Handsome animal at any rate, let us know if that pattern is retained and if it appears in progeny. Best of luck, Vic H. Imperial Valley, CA. USA

The_Greg · #4 10-14-2009, 02:59 PM

Well that animal is not my personal own Williamsi. I was on kingsnake and saw it.

It mus be from some other locality, because under no other pictures have I seen any williamsi look like that.

Chum · #5 10-14-2009, 03:24 PM

The_Greg have you tried contacting the seller to hear if all his animals have this coloration and if it is parmanent markings or markings changing along with mood?

I went kingsnake to look formyself and noticed that on the second photo he uploaded a female is shown that appear to have black spots as well and maybe another male that seems to have a little less spots, but none the less have spots on the tail.
Very peculiar looking geckoes he has - and cheap too!

I can say for my own geckoes the male has absolutely no spots on the tail - all he have are some scattered spots down the flanks. Regarding the females they both have none at all - well maybe one or two on each side, but Very few.

Airedale · #6 10-14-2009, 08:19 PM

Its a very cool little gecko. Mine have spots along the sides, but other than that nothing. Still, I love my lil' williamsi!

Matt K · #7 10-14-2009, 08:54 PM

Everyone is making some interesting speculations here, but this coloration is not too uncommon when they are too cool and might appreciate some added heat...

phelsumatic · #8 10-14-2009, 10:58 PM

Natural variation I have some with similar marking's.

Ingo · #9 10-15-2009, 01:42 AM

Meanwhile williamsi has been found in two other locations but kimbosa forest and animals are imported from there as well. Maybe these may look different to some extent.

Ingo

Chum · #10 10-16-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ingo

Meanwhile williamsi has been found in two other locations but kimbosa forest and animals are imported from there as well. Maybe these may look different to some extent.

Ok, I haven't heard about that. Does anyone happen to know anything about those other two locations?

Info about color variation as a result of different locations as well as climatic info about other locations could be very interesting.