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Old 02-25-2010, 01:12 PM
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Default Female Williamsi Not Eating

SInce my female Williamsi laid her eggs I have not seen her eating and she is starting too look a bit on the thin side. She has been pretty lazy through the day just lying under the basking light. The only time she appears to be active is when I spray the tank. There are plenty of crickets in the tank but she does not appear to be interested. I tried to purchase some curly wing flies to see if she would show any interest in them, but I can't get hold of them in the U.K. I might just be paranoid I don't know.
I recently changed their setup around which she might just be getting used to. Temps and humidity levels are good. Does anyone know of any other livefood I could offer just to see if she is eating?
Any help is much appreciated. Thanks
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:52 PM
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What you're describing--unusual lethargy combined with failure to feed--sounds like illness. Getting her to eat may not be the primary battle. I recommend taking her to a vet--as difficult as it might be to treat such a tiny animal, it sounds like she needs a health evaluation and parasite check. Remove all of the stray crickets--they will only cause stress and may do her harm. Do you feed CGD or fruit puree? Does she have UVB light and calcium supplement powder on her feeder insects?
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Crickets are always dusted I do feed fruit baby food with day gecko diet added. She is extremely active when I mist but then just chills.
She has not shredded since her skin since I had her and when I got them I treated them for mites and parasites.
I am not watching her 24 hours a day so I may have just missed her eating I really don't know.
I do have U.V light 5.0.
Any other available livefood you could recommend?
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Old 02-25-2010, 02:34 PM
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Mine have eaten every single thing I have given them so far--this includes hydei and melanogaster fruit flies, mini-mealworms (T. obscurus), small mealworms (T. moliter), phoenix worms, small silkworms, 1/4 inch crickets, and the little gnats that came in with the terrarium plants--they ate them all. No insect that has entered the cage has made it out alive, lol. They also eat CGD until they waddle, if allowed. I recommend going easy on the fruit--it's not very nutritious, and they will eat a lot more of it than you realize. The only time mine stop eating is if their stomach is literally too full for them to fit anything else into it.
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Are mealworms not difficult to digest?
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No, not really. They do have a lot of chitin. I wouldn't give them to an animal that wasn't healthy, as a debilitated animal might have trouble breaking up the chitin. Their digestive systems are normally so efficient, though, that most insectivores excrete the chitin as a fine sand. As for the Lygos specifically, they haven't shown sign of having trouble digesting anything so far, lol.

Mealworms are considered to be not particularly nutritious--in reality, they're low in certain nutrients, but their vitamin and mineral contents beyond that haven't really been mapped. Their phosphorus content is quite high, so they need to be dusted with calcium. I gutload mine for a day before feeding. I use mealworms only for variety, not as a staple. My opinion is, more variety is generally better than less, and mealworms are incredibly easy to culture. The smaller mini-mealworms are more active and enticing to small lizards.
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I will give it a go. Even if I see her taking one it will be piece of mind.
I forgot to mention we have had a real drop in temperature over the last week. So it will be colder in the night which may account her trying to reheat through the day.
As always, big thanks
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My honest opinion, based on what I've seen so far, is that if she hasn't filled up her belly to the point where she is round, and there's food available, then something is wrong.
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I would agree. Also forgot to mention I changed substrate from bark to the coco bricks. Haven't seen either of them go too ground level since.
She also moves too her own sleeping spot at night. Do you think the fact she is drinkong well is a bit of a positive sign?
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That's always a positive sign. If her ceasing to eat coincided with your making major changes in the cage, it could just be stress.
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