[mib15cp]

hey guys.. i'm new to the site.. name's kenny, from the philippines.. just wanted to ask if anyone here has any experience with geckos from the philippines like Cyrtodactylus agusanensis, Cyrtodactylus annulatus, Cyrtodactylus philippinicus and Cyrtodactylus redimiculus.. currently i have 1 Cyrtodactylus philippinicus female and she laid 2 eggs a few days ago..

[JimmyNightlizard]

Originally Posted by mib15cp

hey guys.. i'm new to the site.. name's kenny, from the philippines.. just wanted to ask if anyone here has any experience with geckos from the philippines like Cyrtodactylus agusanensis, Cyrtodactylus annulatus, Cyrtodactylus philippinicus and Cyrtodactylus redimiculus.. currently i have 1 Cyrtodactylus philippinicus female and she laid 2 eggs a few days ago..

Hi Kenny,
Nice to see that someone is working with some of the lesser seen Cyrtodactylus species on here! I myself have captive breeding experience with the malaysian bowfinger gecko-Cyrtodactylus pulchellus, and hope to work some of others down the line. Sorry I don't know of anyone working with any of the philippinicus here in the U.S. But what I can tell you is most likely the care of their eggs is probably much similar to other cyrtodactylus eggs. As with all reptile eggs..Make sure to remember to mark the top of the eggs with a sharpie pen or pensil. And keep the marked top always showing upwards. Where ever the eggs are right now, don't let them roll around. Keep them still in the position they were found in. If this is your first experience with reptile eggs, this is very important to know! It is to prevent embryos from drowning in the egg. Now that you have the eggs marked at the top, you will need an incubator. Any small plastic food storage containor or deli cup is fine. As for incubation substrates, damp peatmoss, or vermiculite works the best. Make some small holes at the top of the containor. Keep the temperature steady in the low to mid 70's. You'll need a small thermometer. A cheap 3" glass thermometer used for fish tanks works great! I just stick the mercury bottomed tip in the peat, and it gives me a very accurate reading! Seeing that you live in a warm tropical climate, I'm sure you won't need a heated incubator. Just put the containor w/ the eggs somewhere in your home, where it will not get too warm. Basements or cellars work great for temperature control if you have one? Otherwise, when it gets very warm out, make sure you have your air conditioning on! Any temperature past 80 degrees is very risky for cyrto eggs. And would most likely kill the embryos inside. It will most likely take the eggs between 3-5 months to hatch. Not knowing this species history, I can't tell you exactly how long it will take. But from what I know about most cyrto species, its takes about 90 days for some of the smaller ground dwelling species 3-4" long(peguensis, quadrivirgatus, oldhami) and 145-160 days for some of the larger tree dwelling species 7-12" long (intermedius, pulchellus, iranjayensis). If at any time you see drips on the lid wipe them off! You don't want the drips falling on the eggs, they will cause mold to grow and kill the babies inside. All Cyrtodactylus eggs are very brittle and need to be kept dryer then lets say cave gecko or leopard gecko eggs. Over the period of incubation, you might have to readd alittle bit of water to your substrate. If so, do this very carefully! Take the eggs out put them somewhere where they are safe from rolling around. Then mist your substrate gently, mix it together so its damp all the way through. This might not even be necessary. I have to do this because I use a heated incubator. Its just in case your substrate gets too dry over time. Let me know how things are going? Please feel free to share some pictures of your geckos, I'd love to see the cyrtos of the philippines! Below is a picture of my 2 hatchling C. pulchellus that hatched out over the summer. It took them 145 days to hatch.

[mib15cp]

thanks for the pics jim! i have some experience with reptile eggs but compared with the other people on this website i'm still a newbie.. the species i'm trying to breed is about 4 inches long, usually found in rock crevices and their pattern kinda reminds me of netted diamonds similar to the pattern found on reticulated pythons.. extremely nocturnal and sensitive to light of any kind, they won't even go out at night if the lamp is on, personalities vary from calm and curious to skittish and flighty.. has the ability to darken their skin, no eyelids.. possibly a burrowing species too but i've only noticed light digging from these guys so far.. the eggs are under one of the rocks in the tank and i just left them there to hatch on their own since i thought moving them around was a bad idea for the embryos.. temperature here in the philippines is around 33-35 degrees (we use celsius) so i keep misting the tank every 3 hours to maintain the temperature in the tank but i'm careful not to get it too damp.. there are 2 pics here first one is that species i'm trying to breed and the second one is another species that i want to take care of but still trying to find them..

[Ingo]

The second is Pseudogekko smaragdinus. Hard to get also outside the phillipines. So far, I was not successful as well.


Good luck


Ingo

[J.P.]

mib15cp,
hi there kabayan! your geckos are interesting. good luck with your breeding project.

[adamkwas]

Ka-most-ta-ka priend

[JimmyNightlizard]

Originally Posted by mib15cp

thanks for the pics jim! i have some experience with reptile eggs but compared with the other people on this website i'm still a newbie.. the species i'm trying to breed is about 4 inches long, usually found in rock crevices and their pattern kinda reminds me of netted diamonds similar to the pattern found on reticulated pythons.. extremely nocturnal and sensitive to light of any kind, they won't even go out at night if the lamp is on, personalities vary from calm and curious to skittish and flighty.. has the ability to darken their skin, no eyelids.. possibly a burrowing species too but i've only noticed light digging from these guys so far.. the eggs are under one of the rocks in the tank and i just left them there to hatch on their own since i thought moving them around was a bad idea for the embryos.. temperature here in the philippines is around 33-35 degrees (we use celsius) so i keep misting the tank every 3 hours to maintain the temperature in the tank but i'm careful not to get it too damp.. there are 2 pics here first one is that species i'm trying to breed and the second one is another species that i want to take care of but still trying to find them..

Hi Kenny, thanks for the pics! Very cool animals! I had a pair of Cyrtodactylus consobrinus a few years ago, they were similar in being very nocturnal! They never came out during the day. The C. Pulchellus however will. Sounds like you have a good plan, the only thing is when the eggs hatch the adults may pose a problem? Just as a safty precaution you might want to temporarily put the adults in another enclosure before the incubation is 80-90 days in. Sometimes the adults will eat their young. This can happen, but its not always the case. It depends on the species, and how often you are feeding the adults. Some species have more voracious appetites. Such as pulchellus! I actually heard of someone losing one of their juvi pulchellus this way I would never take a chance doing that with my pulchellus eggs, but if I kept them in large enough enclosure that was heavily planted with many many hiding places then maybe I would try it? If you decide to keep the adults in with the eggs until they hatch, make sure you start checking more often towards the end of 3 months. It may take longer than that though? Some cyrto eggs can take as long as 6 months to hatch. Good luck! Hope it all works out for you

[mib15cp]

Originally Posted by Ingo

The second is Pseudogekko smaragdinus. Hard to get also outside the phillipines. So far, I was not successful as well.


Good luck


Ingo

thanks ingo, i'm really interested to find smaragdinus but i'm not sure where they're found here in the philippines and not much is known about them..

[mib15cp]

Originally Posted by JimmyNightlizard

Hi Kenny, thanks for the pics! Very cool animals! I had a pair of Cyrtodactylus consobrinus a few years ago, they were similar in being very nocturnal! They never came out during the day. The C. Pulchellus however will. Sounds like you have a good plan, the only thing is when the eggs hatch the adults may pose a problem? Just as a safty precaution you might want to temporarily put the adults in another enclosure before the incubation is 80-90 days in. Sometimes the adults will eat their young. This can happen, but its not always the case. It depends on the species, and how often you are feeding the adults. Some species have more voracious appetites. Such as pulchellus! I actually heard of someone losing one of their juvi pulchellus this way I would never take a chance doing that with my pulchellus eggs, but if I kept them in large enough enclosure that was heavily planted with many many hiding places then maybe I would try it? If you decide to keep the adults in with the eggs until they hatch, make sure you start checking more often towards the end of 3 months. It may take longer than that though? Some cyrto eggs can take as long as 6 months to hatch. Good luck! Hope it all works out for you

about what cyrtos eat.. i wasn't sure what to feed them at first but when i studied the area that they were living in and the places where they were usually found (rock crevices, rock piles, cracks in cave walls..) i noticed crickets, pillbugs, small spiders and small grasshoppers were also living there so i catch them and feed them to my geckos.. but since they're nocturnal i haven't caught them in the act of feeding but i have noticed that most of the critters i caught for them to eat can't be found anywhere in the tank.. i hope that means they're eating right, gotta catch more for them soon.. so far i've noticed that from time to time they (1 confirmed female, 1 confirmed male, 1 youngling) would go under the rock where the eggs are but they seem to know what they (the eggs) are coz they look like they're careful when moving around near the eggs.. even the male doesn't do anything to move the eggs or even touch the eggs.. but just in case i'll keep a close watch over the eggs when february comes around.. can't wait til they hatch..

[mib15cp]

Originally Posted by adamkwas

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hey adamkwas, doing fine.. i take it you're not pinoy judging from your greeting attempt, he he he.. how's the gecko scene there in canada?.. kumusta pud bai?..