[GermanDude]

Good Evening to all of you,
I came up with some, well, lets call it, failure of housing so I figured I would ask you guys for some hints what I should do.
So here is a short story about how I ended up with my problem:
I started to build a new Vivarium (L 1,20m x B 80cm x H 1m) for my 1.1 Chondrodactylus Bibronii (The male is a Bibron for sure but i am starting to wonder about the female being a Turneri ) After painting the selfmade backplane with Epoxidharz and setting all up I waited for 10 days to see how the climate developes and its around 38 to 45% at day and 55 to 65% at night with 10 hours of daylight. The substrate of the left half is 1/2 humus and 1/4 sand and 1/4 soil i took out of there old vivarium to have some microorganisms, the other half of the ground is 3/4 sand and 1/4 humus both. The temp at daylight is aproximately around 28°C, under the spot 38C and at night between 18 and 20°C. My 2 Bibrons moved in like a week ago, I already found a clutch of eggs and everything seemed fine... But then... after cleaning I slipped due to an injury I got from sports and fall... on my "Bartagamen" (Pogono vitticeps) vivarium and basically broke the whole thing...

So here is my problem, I am in the middle of a house moving and I am not sure what to do so here is my question:
Is it possible to have my Pogona move in with the Bibrons for a couple of days to aybe 2 weeks until i set up a new place for him to house?
I know they come from different continents, they have not the exact same requirements, but my Pogona is still pretty tiny (12,5cm from tal to nose).

I also wanted to as if the excrements of Pogona Viticeps or Bibroniis could harm the other with their specific Microorganisms Bacteria and so on?

I started to let my Pogona have its hibernation which I started for him 18 days ago and due to my glass shattering accident he is barely awake and morelikely sleepy the whole day. My Bibrons start to travel around around 11pm, lights go off at 10pm.

What do you guys think?
I could really need an advice, should I let him have his hibernation in a 30 x 30 x 60cm terrarium and in this time get a new terarium? Or can I set him to my Bibrons for this time.

Thank you all for your advice....

[Riverside Reptiles]

I would NOT house your dragon with your geckos.

[acpart]

Get a plastic tub which should be pretty cheap and house one of the 2 species in there.

Aliza

[grmblmonster]

Wenn du gerne noch was von deinen Geckos haben willst, solltest du sie besser nicht, auch nicht nur kurz, mit den Bartagamen zusammensetzen.

Das geht nämlich sehr schnell und definitiv nicht gut aus.

[GermanDude]

Okay I got that, I havent put them together, although I think that "klein Egon" the dragon would be more happy in a fairly bigger tank than for this couple days
but now I am wondering about the reasons why it wouldnt go well.
I am not talking about the origin of both species or climatic differences.
I am more talking about different bacteria or typical behavior, or...
Has anybody some papers or insight informations about this?
(I lookinged into some books at our university-libraries but couldnt find crap -.- )

And thanks 2 all for the quick replies

[grmblmonster]

Why it wouldn't work? Your dragon is going to eat the Geckos.

[GermanDude]

my dragon is still a "tiny" dragon and even smaller than my geckos.. I think my bibron male would morelikely ride small Egon like a horse...
My Male bibron is 14,5cm long, my dragon like i said 2 cm smaller.
And I was morelikely talking abour scientific reason that would speak theoretically against it, like bacteria, behavioral differences like we know that dragons AND Bibrons are sometimes very territorial.... and so on...
So I think NOT that my dragon would eat Mr. Bibron just now... at least not in the last week until I buy a new Terra... But in his plastic bos he is save from being eaten by my Bibron xD

[grmblmonster]

That's not as funny as you think

I've seen a Bibron Gecko biting off the leg of an Leopardgecko.

Sometimes it's just better not to experiment with things, that can harm the animals

[GermanDude]

mhh I still think that you didn't get my point besides that my dragon wouldnt eat the bibron like you said in your first reply:
I am asking for scientific facts why it wouldnt work and I know that both species can be very territorial... So I still think there should be mmoooore reason, but I will look into isgab.org acii.net or plosbio when I am at Uni and maybe I will find something about bacteria orwhatsoever.
Thanks :=

[Ozymandias]

what other reason do you need? Ether the dragon attacks the gecko or the gecko attacks the dragon ether way they get stressed out. Just pick up a plastic storage tub as a temporary home and be done with it. It really isn't worth the risk.