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    Ptychozoon kuhli have rows of tubercular scales forming small lines of bumps on their backs, these bumps are tiny so you need to examine each specimen carefully. Ptychozoon lionotum never have these rows of bumps, have smaller and narrower tail tips, the webbing of their feet is also a bit different, with one clearly dissociated toe in the front limbs. Don't mix lionotum and kuhli as they won't breed with each other.
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    These are 2 of my well-acclimated WC kuhlis, notice the line of tiny bumps just on the edge of the paler one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    This flyer looks very stressed out. There is no cover for it to hide. It is not a good sign for flyers to be hanging out on the substrate. If recently purchased by the current owner, this gecko could be dehydrated. Hard to tell from that photo.

    How much are they asking for the gecko? Captive bred flyers go for about $60. I think it's worth the cost. I have a captive hatched female who will be 12 yo this June. That's the one in my avatar. I do have a handsome WC male that I purchased about 8 years ago for $15. That one came with 28 mites. I removed them all. He's doing fine too!

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    Thank you so much for the info! The price for the flyer (which comes with the cage, stand, etc.) is $100- I don't think it's worth the money compared to the prices you've listed above. I would get a different cage anyway, and the stand is black, which doesn't even match the furniture in my house, so really I don't think it's worth it. Thanks again!

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    Thank you so much, Elizabeth Freer and Thorrshamri! I really agree, I've researched flyers some more and laying on the substrate is definitely a no-good. The whole terrarium looks overall dry and desert-like, which also isn't good. They have sand for a substrate,which keeps the humidity down, so that's another problem, too. Thank you all so much for your help-I will definitely use this site more often!!!

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    You should buy some healthy and plump CBB ones. I think Elizabeth produces some, or else you'll find some on Fauna Classifieds or maybe in our own GU classifieds. I'm not too sure on the US market prices but here they go for $ 30 as wild imports and no more than $ 60 as CBB each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorrshamri View Post
    You should buy some healthy and plump CBB ones. I think Elizabeth produces some, or else you'll find some on Fauna Classifieds or maybe in our own GU classifieds. I'm not too sure on the US market prices but here they go for $ 30 as wild imports and no more than $ 60 as CBB each.
    Great! Thank you again so much this has really been a huge help I doubt I'd have the opritunity of getting a healthy flyer and the knowledge from all of this wonderful information you all have given me if it weren't for this amazing website-thank you Geckos Unlimited!!!
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    Just in case, Geitje on the forum can probably offer you a pair or more of these as CBB and ship them to you overnight
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    Awesome, I'll looked into all of these. Thanks!
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    **UPDATE**
    I asked for more pictures and it looks great in the new pictures, healthy, good size, not thin or sunken, and it wasn't on the substrate, either. It was climbing on some rocks in the terrarium. Here's a pic-the other thing she sent me was a video, so until I find out how to upload a video from Instagram I don't know how to get it onto here. Anyhow, here's the pic! I'll make a before and after sort of thing so you can see the difference.
    Attachment 34957heres how it looked before-maybe this is what it looked like when they first bought it or something? Anyhow, drumroll please for......
    Attachment 34956 Tada!!!!here's how it looks now! I don't know why it looked so bad before but what matters is that they changed it up so it looks much more healthy now. What do you guys think about how it looks now? Also I'll make sure that once I figure out how to download the video so I can add it to this thread, I'll add it ASAP. Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks!

    UPDATE:I couldn't upload the video so here's some screenshots I took of the flyer in the video:
    Attachment 34958Attachment 34959 (p.s. The flyer's mouth is opened a little in the first picture because it stuck out its tongue some)
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    I still wouldn't buy it :P You don't know about its load of internal parasites. It is obviously WC, and when you have little or no experience with WC (wild-caught), it soon turns to be expensive, generates headaches, and you are at risk of losing that animal. It is still kept in a wrong setup. I know what you have under your eyes can be more tempting than what you can just see through pics on classifieds, but you have to use some wisdom and avoid future problems and expenses.

    How about buying another species as CBB? I'm thinking of 2 parthenogenic species, parthenogenic meaning females lay fertile eggs without the "help" of any male, without fecundation. Babies are all females and clones of the mother, genetically speaking. Mourning geckos are in that case, it's a widespread and really easy species which you can keep at room temps with some moisture. The latin name for them is Lepidodactylus lugubris. They are smaller than Flying geckos, but really suitable for a beginner and not expensive at all. I'm in France but just to give you a price range, I sell mine for 10 euros each, barely $11. You can also consider another parthenogenic species, also with cryptic coloration like Flying geckos and very active, Hemiphyllodactylus typus, barely 3" long with tail but very active and funny. They are a bit more pricey ($30-60 for one) but as easy to care for as Mourning geckos.
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