Biggest Masobe?

**Riverside Reptiles** · #1 01-23-2009, 10:44 AM

Someone asked me how big Masobe can actually get and it got me to wondering what the biggest Masobe on record is? Also, what would one say is average size for full grown male and female?

DDReptiles · #2 01-23-2009, 01:29 PM

My biggest female so far is 33 grams and the last weight I have on my biggest male is 24 grams but that was a few months ago. Females are definately more chunky.

Also to add to Ethan's questions, what is a good breeding weight?

Thanks Derek

**Riverside Reptiles** · #3 01-23-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DDReptiles

My biggest female so far is 33 grams and the last weight I have on my biggest male is 24 grams but that was a few months ago. Females are definately more chunky.

Also to add to Ethan's questions, what is a good breeding weight?

Thanks Derek

I seem to recall Matjaz telling me that 30 grams was a good weight to start thinking about breeding. That's just off the top of my head though, so I could be wrong.

**mat.si** · #4 01-23-2009, 07:36 PM

Yes, females are definitely bigger and more robust than males.
My adult females are about 30 grams and males around 25 or a bit less (I'd have to check).
My F2 and F3 animals actually grew faster and got bigger than my original F1 group.
I guess they received better care and better feeding right from the start.
If feed well, they can start growing really fast after the first couple of slower months.

Derek, your 33 gram female must be really impressive. If I remember correctly, she's just a bit over one year old (Nov 07??).
Most of the ones I sent to the US will be one year old in April. I guess most of them are already almost adult in size.

The bigger ones could probably breed this spring, but young females might only produce up to 3 or 4 fertile eggs the first year.

Matjaz

DDReptiles · #5 01-23-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mat.si

Derek, your 33 gram female must be really impressive. If I remember correctly, she's just a bit over one year old (Nov 07??).
Most of the ones I sent to the US will be one year old in April. I guess most of them are already almost adult in size.

The bigger ones could probably breed this spring, but young females might only produce up to 3 or 4 fertile eggs the first year.

Matjaz

Yep, she is very nice

The other two female are smaller, but growing well (although my room is staying rather cool now).

I will be thrilled if I just get one baby, anything more is icing on the cake

**mat.si** · #6 01-23-2009, 08:56 PM

My room temps go down to 17-19 C at night (very rarely to 16 C) close to the floor, where the masobe tarrariums are. By day the temps are 20 to 22 C in the masobe terrariums.

You might get 1, 2 or up to 4 babies (rarely) from one female the first year. Anything more would be a big surprise.

Matjaz

Sourri · #7 01-24-2009, 05:41 AM

All my adult WC females are much more chunky than the males. 2 of them have also 33 g. I have 2 F1 females (one from Matjaz

) that are of more slight build than the WC, they have not so broad heads also.

**mat.si** · #8 01-26-2009, 07:38 PM

OK, I think we might have found at least the temporary winner here.

A couple of days ago I took weights of all my adult masobe.
Here are the results.

All my F1 and F2 CB adults are about 2 to 6 years old.

Older males are 25,0 to 27,6 g
Younger males are 21,9 to 24,6 g

So my heaviest masobe male is 27,6 g (with regenerated tail.)

Females are from 33,1 to 37,9 g. (Most of them are around 34 to 35 g)

So my heaviest masobe female is 37,9 g

PassPort · #9 01-26-2009, 09:10 PM

38g on a female masobe??? what are we talking for a SVL?

**mat.si** · #10 01-26-2009, 09:38 PM

Bigger females have SVL about 10,5 - 11 cm and TL about 18 cm.