[hetyu]

Hi All,

I have an 1.2 p. androyensis, all of them are around ~1 year or a little bit older.
I really enjoy watching them and can truly say that these geckos one of my favourites.

but...

At the 5th of May I was quite sure that one of them is gravid, the eggs were visible in her body and she was digging with her rear legs:

Pretty bad vid about it:

YouTube - P.andro

And made 3 pretty bad quality pictures aswell:
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Now at the 18th of May I'm a little bit afraid about her... her "stomach" went HUGE and my fingers are crossed that she is not impacted.
So I've made a bad quality vid again... /from the 17th sec you will see why i think there may be a problem/

YouTube - hopefully gravid androyensis

So, I would like to know your opinions on her aswell.
Fingers crossed...

Thank you in advance!
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[Graham_s]

Difficult to see properly but she looks like she might be eggbound...
I'd get her to the vet ASAP for a proper diagnosis.

[NigelMoses]

Definitely looks gravid, haha. Almost as if she will pop. I wouldn't be overly concerned, if she is eating properly and behaving normally. I think the worst thing you can do is bother a female that wants to find a place to lay her eggs. I would leave her alone, meaning no handling or constant viewing until she has passed her eggs. I recently acquired some WC androyensis and two of them came in looking just like your female, the eggs were so big that they looked as if it was impossible for them to pass them. Within a couple weeks time they laid the eggs fine. Keep in mind they looked just like your female, so she could lay any day or it could take her a couple more weeks. From the video she looks rather alert, her eyes looks great and she looks well hydrated. Times like this also call for more calcium, be sure that you are dusting every feeding. Keep us updated.

[Graham_s]

Maybe I was wrong! I just thought that she looked a little more "lumpy" than I would expect from a gravid female...


EDIT: Just noticed the dates in the first post...

[David]

so you found that the appearance (shape) of the animal in the last video is normal?

she was trying to lay those eggs already 2 weeks ago..

be carefull with fatty females of small species, sometimes fat reserves will block the (development of) eggs and the animal will die by egg bound without any big sign of disorders/diseases, just a inflating belly...

sorry for bad english

[David]

I suggest to let her alone in a well heated boxe with 5cm of fine sand and to give her a solution of water+Ca

[NigelMoses]

She definitely looks lumpy, don't take it wrong. Obese animals are never great at breeding nor laying eggs but if you have ever seen a gravid androyensis, you would laugh. It almost seems like they will pop. I just don't feel taking her to the vet will really help at this point, leaving her alone is the best remedy. If the eggs are going to pass unneeded stress will not help the process.

[NigelMoses]

Originally Posted by David

so you found that the appearance (shape) of the animal in the last video is normal?

she was trying to lay those eggs already 2 weeks ago..

be carefull with fatty females of small species, sometimes fat reserves will block the (development of) eggs and the animal will die by egg bound without any big sign of disorders/diseases, just a inflating belly...

sorry for bad english

He also said she was gravid two weeks ago. Also what is gravid, maybe he noticed slight bulges and the formation of eggs. Many geckos dig well before they lay eggs. As I mentioned above I had mine for almost 2 weeks before they laid eggs and they arrived looking like the most recent video he posted.

[David]

Originally Posted by NigelMoses

if you have ever seen a gravid androyensis, you would laugh

I laugh indeed

but during the several years I used to breed them, I never laughed when I sometimes found a female in that shape

agreed about the vet, too much stress for nothing

[NigelMoses]

Originally Posted by David

I laugh indeed

but during the several years I used to breed them, I never laughed when I sometimes found a female in that shape

agreed about the vet, too much stress for nothing

I have never nor do I ever laugh at a sick gecko so let us stop that thought right here.