[siiiraso]

Hello All,

I'm here to ask the help of the community. I can not raise the P. androyensis hatchlings up. Sadly all of them (4 already...) died in the first 4-5 days and I'm running out of ideas about the problems...
So let me quickly tell you how am I trying to keep them:
- cage: 11,8 inch (30 cm) long, 7,8inch (20cm) deep and 10,2 inch (26 cm) tall - glass.
- heat/light: 20W spot lamp on the top of the cage's right side. Temps under the light is 89-90 F (32 celsius) and 75/72 F (24/22 celsius) on the cool side. Temps drop down at night to 73/72 F and I'm not using any UTH.
- substrate: 50-50% cocofiber and sand
- food: ~1 week blatta lateralis (turkistan roahces) and flightless fruit flies dusted with Repashy Calcium plus.
- humidity: not measured but not high, sprinkle on corner at every night
+ lots of hiding places and small branches.

Please tell me and correct me if I'm doing anything not properly. There are still 8 eggs in the line and I really wouldn't like to loose anymore.
Every advice welcome!!!

Thanks,
siiiraso

[Hannibal]

Sorry to hear that your having such a hard time with your babies. I wish I could help, but I don't have any androyensis yet so I am unable to advise on the hatchling's care. I hope that someone with more experience with them will respond. I wish you luck with your future hatchlings.

[NigelMoses]

I feel you are over thinking it. Make everything much more simple for yourself. I would use paper towel for substrate to start out. I actually am raising 4 hatchling androyensis as I type. I have hatched out 6 this season so only two passed, they were weak from the get go and I did not expect them to last. The other 4 are doing great. I keep all of them in a small exo terra kritter keeper, its plastic and measures no more than 6"x4"x6"tall. I mist once at night so that the paper towel and plants get moist. They are fed fruit flies or extremely small crickets. I find they will more readily go after the crickets. Add a few twigs and some small fake leaves and you are good to go. Also I do not heat them, room temperature should suffice. None of my adult androyensis are kept with heat, only room temps. Also before you place the new baby in the container be sure to mist it rather well so that it retains some humidity until the baby gets through its first shed. I have thought about separating all of them in individual containers to make sure all are fed equally but they seem to sleep on each other during the day, so I haven't.

Originally Posted by siiiraso

Hello All,

I'm here to ask the help of the community. I can not raise the P. androyensis hatchlings up. Sadly all of them (4 already...) died in the first 4-5 days and I'm running out of ideas about the problems...
So let me quickly tell you how am I trying to keep them:
- cage: 11,8 inch (30 cm) long, 7,8inch (20cm) deep and 10,2 inch (26 cm) tall - glass.
- heat/light: 20W spot lamp on the top of the cage's right side. Temps under the light is 89-90 F (32 celsius) and 75/72 F (24/22 celsius) on the cool side. Temps drop down at night to 73/72 F and I'm not using any UTH.
- substrate: 50-50% cocofiber and sand
- food: ~1 week blatta lateralis (turkistan roahces) and flightless fruit flies dusted with Repashy Calcium plus.
- humidity: not measured but not high, sprinkle on corner at every night
+ lots of hiding places and small branches.

Please tell me and correct me if I'm doing anything not properly. There are still 8 eggs in the line and I really wouldn't like to loose anymore.
Every advice welcome!!!

Thanks,
siiiraso

[David]

androyensis need heat

when you lost juvies of such species, the problem usually comes from the breeding female

the conditions described are good, but juveniles are more sensitive to dehydratation and to stress when kept in groups

[siiiraso]

Thanks for the replies!
So maybe I should keep them one by one in a way smaller cage/delicup.
So the question is to heat or not to heat?

[NigelMoses]

I have kept them with heat and without at room temperatures, with no noticeable differences. I now keep them at room temperatures with no added heat and they are doing fine. They have been this way for almost a full year now. I am also still getting eggs from my girls at room temperatures. Keeping a baby androyensis at 90 Degrees could be over heating it.

[SHzac]

Hi,

I am breeding Paroedura androyensis some years now. I had have problems in the beginning too. Temperature and humidity are not the biggest problem. If the offspring have the possibility to drink every day it could be even quiet dry. If temperature does not fall below 18 °C at night it will be ok too.
Since I feed the offspring with woodlice, Thermobia domestica and only sometimes fruit flies I never had problems anymore. Even do not powder the prey! Most supplements do have much more vitamin A than necessary, thus sudden death offspring could be the result. I found very often dead offspring after feeding with supplemented flies. Woodlice do like to eat the Sepia bone, which makes them a very good feed for the offspring. With these two things to be careful about you will not have breeding problems anymore... I guess
Best regards
Sacha