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    Quote Originally Posted by acpart View Post
    I sent you a suggestion via PM but you can also check out this Gecko Time article:

    Three to Get Ready: Paroedura - Gecko Time - Gecko Time

    Aliza
    Thank you for the wonderful information! I think that what I have should be good enough for my gecko to sustain itself. I just have a few question about some of the things in the article. Two of them had put calcium dishes in for breeding females, would I need that for a male or non breeding female? Also can thermostats regulate Lamp temperatures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crestfield View Post
    Thank you for the feedback and I’ll look into that and for the powdered supplement the Repashy has both vitamins and calcium needed for a gecko and I just didn’t know if a Pictus gecko needed supplements without vitamins and with vitamins.
    All geckos need vitamin D3 + calcium. D3 is required in order for the gecko to metabolize calcium. Some multivitamins contain vitamin D3; some don't. Since D3 is fat soluble, it sticks around in a gecko's body for about 1 week and metabolizes calcium little by little.

    I prefer separate supplements so that I can tweak the vitamins just right.

    Depending upon the age of the Paroedura picta you get, it will also need plain calcium each week in order to develop strong bones.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crestfield View Post
    Thanks both of you! I think I got that down. The website said that the Rephasy Calcium Plus contain vitamins, calcium, protein and fat, but the protein and fat are only 2%.
    https://www.store.repashy.com/calciu...-4-oz-bag.html
    Thanks.

    Repashy's (Superfoods) Calcium Plus IS an all-in-one multivitamin that is frequently used. I think Aliza uses it. She has tweaked that for leos. The insects still need a good dry diet.

    Those levels of protein and fat aren't nearly enough to keep insects healthy! An insect is like an empty pasta shell that needs filling. We are what we eat.

    Consider getting Professional Reptiles' Pro Gutload dry diet for your picta's insects' dry diet.

    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 10-22-2019 at 02:45 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Thanks.

    Repashy's (Superfoods) Calcium Plus IS an all-in-one multivitamin that is frequently used. I think Aliza uses it. She has tweaked that for leos. The insects still need a good dry diet.

    Those levels of protein and fat aren't nearly enough to keep insects healthy! An insect is like an empty pasta shell that needs filling. We are what we eat.

    Consider getting Professional Reptiles' Pro Gutload dry diet for your picta's insects' dry diet.

    Thank you for the information and I'll look into this. Also would bread, fruit and vegetables be a sustainable gutload?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crestfield View Post
    Thank you for the information and I'll look into this. Also would bread, fruit and vegetables be a sustainable gutload?
    NOPE!

    Professional Reptiles' Pro Gutload costs only $3. Store it in an airtight container so it stays viable as long as possible.

    PLUS \/

    "Lettuce (except dark, leafy greens) is just water and nutritionally irrelevant. People don't even give lettuce to tortoises and iguanas because it's worthless as food. The same could be said for potatoes. Fish flakes are very high in protein and this can lead to a build-up of uric acid in feeders/reptiles and end up causing gout. A little now and then is fine but this should never be the bulk of any gutload."

    "A commercial gut loading food like Bug Burger or Superload (both by Repashy), Cricket Crack, Dinofuel, etc. is going to make your life easier AND provide a nutritious diet to your crickets at the same time. Avoid Fluker's gutloads, as they are super feeble in their formulas."

    "If you opt for making your own gutload at home, here is a list of great ingredients to use:
    Best: mustard greens, turnip greens, dandelion flowers & leaves, collard greens, escarole lettuce, papaya, watercress, and alfalfa.
    Good: sweet potato, carrots, oranges, mango, butternut squash, kale, apples, beet greens, blackberries, bok choy, and green beans.
    Dry food: bee pollen, organic non-salted sunflower seeds, spirulina, dried seaweed, flax seed, and organic non-salted almonds.
    Avoid as much as possible: potatoes, cabbage, iceberg lettuce, romaine lettuce, spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, corn, grains, beans, oats, bread, cereal, meat, eggs, dog food, cat food, fish food, canned or dead insects, vertebrates."
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 10-22-2019 at 03:10 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    NOPE!

    Professional Reptiles' Pro Gutload costs only $3. Store it in an airtight container so it stays viable as long as possible.

    PLUS \/
    Thank you for this! I will add this to my list of cost and also could you check out the basking bulb? https://www.chewy.com/exo-terra-dayl...tile/dp/123912

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crestfield View Post
    Thank you for this! I will add this to my list of cost and also could you check out the basking bulb? https://www.chewy.com/exo-terra-dayl...tile/dp/123912
    You're welcome.

    I have no idea what wattage you'll need to maintain temps in a 10 gallon or whether Paroedura picta bask. That depends upon ambient room temps and involves trials.

    In my experience Exo Terra bulbs aren't very reliable.

    Will you need night time heat in order to maintain their minimums? If you'll need night heat too, you'll need a ceramic heat emitting bulb, because geckos can see white at night. Perhaps a special thermostat can handle differing day temps and night temps.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    You're welcome.

    I have no idea what wattage you'll need to maintain temps in a 10 gallon or whether Paroedura picta bask. That depends upon ambient room temps and involves trials.

    In my experience Exo Terra bulbs aren't very reliable.

    Will you need night time heat in order to maintain their minimums? If you'll need night heat too, you'll need a ceramic heat emitting bulb, because geckos can see white at night. Perhaps a special thermostat can handle differing day temps and night temps.
    The night light isn't required, bUT many use an undertank heater.

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    If you use a thermostat with a light, it will keep turning the light on and off depending on the temperature. I recommend putting a light on a timer if you want to use one (I believe these geckos are nocturnal, so they really don't need a light beyond the ambient light in the room) and getting an under tank heater as mentioned above. Use the thermostat with that. It's probably best to dust feeders with Repashy Calcium plus every other feeding and not leave a dish of calcium in the enclosure.

    Aliza

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crestfield View Post
    The night light isn't required, bUT many use an undertank heater.
    "TheBiodude Tankless Terra Fauna Bioactive Kit 10 Gallon" What does that contain?

    What substrate will you be using? How deep?

    Certain substrates act as insulators unless used very thinly.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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