New rescue super thin. Advice please?

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SamanthaLovely

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I think the pulling my hair out on this isn't the fact that I have to spend money on it or that I spend money and get nothing but the fact that I can't help them. It's more that I have to rely on a someone else before I can help. But because they're such delicate creatures I have to rely on the vet.
 
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SamanthaLovely said:
So the Bowmanville vet charges less for their fecals than my vet so I'll be taking them in as soon as I can collect them :)
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Great! I forgot to tell you something, better late then never. When a reptile regurgitates, it's best to skip at least one day before feeding again due to the digestive juices that can cause irritation. Offer water only if this occurs. Post all the pictures possible as well.
 
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cricket4u said:
Great! I forgot to tell you something, better late then never. When a reptile regurgitates, it's best to skip at least one day before feeding again due to the digestive juices that can cause irritation. Offer water only if this occurs. Post all the pictures possible as well.
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Pictures of the regurgitation?
 
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Pictures of the regurgitation?
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I really don't want to believe her (the other gecko) had actual green urates and so I was thinking of an explanation other than the worse. Is the moss you were using the green or beige color? Is it possible she swallowed some moss and maybe that is where the green came from?

BTW, I just looked at the picture stool2 (the granules) I will bet five fingers those are not cricket parts. Completely wrong.
 
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I really don't want to believe her (the other gecko) had actual green urates and so I was thinking of an explanation other than the worse. Is the moss you were using the green or beige color? Is it possible she swallowed some moss and maybe that is where the green came from?

BTW, I just looked at the picture stool2 (the granules) I will bet five fingers those are not cricket parts. Completely wrong.
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Here's a picture: Sundrop 04/26/2012 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Unfortunately she's on cocoa fibre in her moist hide. But she has been on two types of food and her urate from this morning was white. I didn't get a picture though.

I don't think they're cricket parts either. I'm wondering if maybe it's the powder foods. I know they do have little chunks and maybe it's like when you make a boxed cake mix where there are little chunks that didn't get mixed well. I've started making it with boiling hot water and letting it cool if that is the case.

I'll be getting second opinions from the other vet I go see. I'm hoping for early next week.
 
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i'd think that the bile coming out with the diarrhea could cause the urates to look a little different. btw, there is no designer "anti-cryptosporidium" drug, but it is treated all the time with the drugs mentioned. perhaps it's not usually done in the veterinary community, but the options are there.
 
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i'd think that the bile coming out with the diarrhea could cause the urates to look a little different. btw, there is no designer "anti-cryptosporidium" drug, but it is treated all the time with the drugs mentioned. perhaps it's not usually done in the veterinary community, but the options are there.
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I thought it might be from the changing of the foods or mixture of the two foods in the stomach but I don't know about these things. I'm going to ask the new vet what they think about treating it if it is crypto. But my hopes are up because there was one negative fecal. I don't know if I mentioned this before but they are the vet that the reptile zoo and the /Bowmanville zoo uses so I'm fairly confident in them.
 
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No I'm not using the green one. They tried to sell me the green one but I ended up with the red Carnivore care.
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Then it should not be a problem with clumps. I have used this product many times and it's easily digested. It would not come out as granules. I thought maybe you had bought the wrong bag. :)
 
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Then it should not be a problem with clumps. I have used this product many times and it's easily digested. It would not come out as granules. I thought maybe you had bought the wrong bag. :)
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Then I would assume it's sand but there was no sand on the Xray. I saw it myself. Would it definately show up if it were sand?

I had a thought to take the stool and (with gloves) dissolve it in warm/hot water. The organic matter would break appart and dissolve while the sand didn't. In theory. I think I may try that if I see the granules again.
 
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Then I would assume it's sand but there was no sand on the Xray. I saw it myself. Would it definately show up if it were sand?

I had a thought to take the stool and (with gloves) dissolve it in warm/hot water. The organic matter would break appart and dissolve while the sand didn't. In theory. I think I may try that if I see the granules again.
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Who knows what type of sand they are using? Maybe silica sand? They come in several grades. Well maybe it was just a bit of left over sand you saw. That would be a good thing. Sometimes on an x-ray you will see it scattered, like little spots. She is so thin chances are if it was sand it passed.
 
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Who knows what type of sand they are using? Maybe silica sand? They come in several grades. Well maybe it was just a bit of left over sand you saw. That would be a good thing. Sometimes on an x-ray you will see it scattered, like little spots. She is so thin chances are if it was sand it passed.
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Hopefully that's the case. She's seeming alot wider than she was. I wanted to post a picture tonight but my phone and camera batteries are both dead -.-
 
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while we're on the topic of lizard poop.....what could make a gecko's stool a little softer than normal? i'm not talking watery diarrhea like frodo, just a little on the squishy side. it's not like they vary in their fiber intake. p.s. ladies, i may be getting a leo today, but i'll have to somehow overwhelm my logic and practicality first...moving around with 2 tanks sounds bad
 
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aquamentus_11 said:
while we're on the topic of lizard poop.....what could make a gecko's stool a little softer than normal? i'm not talking watery diarrhea like frodo, just a little on the squishy side. it's not like they vary in their fiber intake. p.s. ladies, i may be getting a leo today, but i'll have to somehow overwhelm my logic and practicality first...moving around with 2 tanks sounds bad
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I'm not sure but probably a change in climate, stress or could just be a cricket that doesn't agree with them. Not as bad as moving around with 6 tanks and it's easier than moving two couches or two chairs :biggrin:
 
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So we've fallen into the routine of feeding twice a day. For all three that were housed together. I'm thinking of rotating Lancelot between the Oxbow and live food because he doesn't seem to be showing any signs like the other two. His stools look perfect.

Any how my vet had told me it wouldn't hurt to use some of the Calcium carbonate I was prescribed for Kalahari (who is getting so fat :biggrin:)
And since their little calcium deposits are non-existent I figured it would be alright.
So our meals go: 2-2.5cc/ml of the Oxbow, 0.05cc/ml of the calcium carbonate and 1cc/ml of water. Sometimes Sundrop and Frodo take the Oxbow better watered down more so I just put the water and Oxbow together and split their feeding into 4.

I'm hoping that the liquid Calcium will give them a boost. Kalahari seems to be thriving since she started it.
 
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