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    Heh, well I'm glad one of ours is using theirs more frequently/without urging. I have my humid hide in the middle overtop the UTH and my warm dry hide on the very end of the warm end with the entrance facing into the tank for privacy. I've seen him in it on occasion in the dead of night, but still. I'd like him to use it more.

    I think it's just the fact that he got a new feeder with more substance to it and is getting gutloaded mealworms as well that probably backed him up/made his stools weird, since his temps are pretty much perfect. I don't know, man. Lavi is just an oddball. At least I'm getting used to his quirks so I know when he's just being shy/pouty and when he's really not feeling well.

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    That, and he's a lazy little bugger that likes staying in the spot where it's perfectly his body temp. XD

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    The phoenix worms also have more moisture in them than mealworms do to, so sometimes its kinda like a gecko laxative, I know hornworms are that way with Ziggy. I have the humid hide entrance facing into the tank and the same with the cool hide. Mine is being shy and pouty because of the dog. My dog thinks he's the only one in the house that is allowed to get attention.....
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    Pft, I take it your gecko is an attention hog, then? Mine are a bit more private, but they do chirp at me when they want attention. Thanks for that heads-up though. I feel better now. I'll just keep an eye on his tummy and make sure he's not getting backed up again on me.

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    No he just doesn't like when the dog is near his tank, he puffs up like a bad boy and then goes into his hide. I can't talk to anyone in this house without the dog thinking its about him, he's the attention seeker.
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    Hey,

    I would avoid "shooing" or moving him at all based on what you may feel is best. We as owners very rarely know better than the gecko as to what they need at any given time and the gecko is choosing one spot over another for good reason. They have evolved to be extremely adept at controlling their PBT (among other things) by choosing where to be at any point in time.

    While your reasons for moving him are no doubt with love and kindness in mind, he's not capable of taking this into account and your making him move (even extremely gently) will encourage him to associate you (or human contact in general) with stress or at the very least a negative experience.

    Many geckos spend the majority of the time in their humid hides as distinct from anywhere else and this can be for many reasons not least of which being they just prefer it there. Its nothing to worry about in itself and unless he is showing signs of poor health or otherwise being unable to choose where he wants to be its best to give him the ability to choose.


    PS: On the subject of loose stool I have found this often accompanies the gecko consuming a new type of feeder insect (I noticed you mention the phoenix worms) and unless related to other health issues should rectify itself within a day or two.

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    Thanks, Zux.

    I mainly move him because when I need to moisten his humid hide I don't want to spray HIM in the process. He only needs his moss moistened every couple of days or so, so in the meantime I suppose I'll just let him choose (no matter how nervous it makes me). I just worry about him not digesting his food properly if he's always in his humid hide (at least that I see).

    He doesn't show any signs of poor health, other than only eating every other day or so, but he's healthy and his stools are (normally) well-formed. When he does eat, it's normally 15 mealworms (since he refuses crickets) or a mix of phoenix worms and mealworms, now that I know he'll eat those. I dust his feeders once a week with Zoo-med's Calcium with D3 and twice a week with their multivitamin and plain calcium. I also leave a small amount of plain calcium in his tank in case he feels he needs more than what he gets from the feeders.

    And generally the "shooing" consists of me lifting his hide, him immediately climbing on my hand after a lick or two, and me moving my hand so it's near his warm hide. He generally gets off and goes in there, at the very least only for the duration of me moistening his moss. Other times he's a stinker and won't get off my hand. He's quite friendly for a Leo that's usually buries himself in moss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
    Thanks, Zux.

    I mainly move him because when I need to moisten his humid hide I don't want to spray HIM in the process. He only needs his moss moistened every couple of days or so, so in the meantime I suppose I'll just let him choose (no matter how nervous it makes me). I just worry about him not digesting his food properly if he's always in his humid hide (at least that I see).

    He doesn't show any signs of poor health, other than only eating every other day or so, but he's healthy and his stools are (normally) well-formed. When he does eat, it's normally 15 mealworms (since he refuses crickets) or a mix of phoenix worms and mealworms, now that I know he'll eat those. I dust his feeders once a week with Zoo-med's Calcium with D3 and twice a week with their multivitamin and plain calcium. I also leave a small amount of plain calcium in his tank in case he feels he needs more than what he gets from the feeders.

    And generally the "shooing" consists of me lifting his hide, him immediately climbing on my hand after a lick or two, and me moving my hand so it's near his warm hide. He generally gets off and goes in there, at the very least only for the duration of me moistening his moss. Other times he's a stinker and won't get off my hand. He's quite friendly for a Leo that's usually buries himself in moss.
    I totally understand how you feel. I was the same way when my Leo began using her moist hide to sleep also. Having spoken to a number of people I trust about such things some of whom who have large collections it would appear some geckos just like it humid where they sleep, they are all different characters I suppose.

    I wouldn't mourn the loss of crickets from his diet too much, there are so many great feeders out there we can offer these days. I tend to offer them sparingly and just for variety sake because of how much of a pain they are, but primarily because they are just inferior to many other species nutritionally speaking.

    Good to hear he doesn't have any other issues and keep up the good work .


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    Just a little of my .02 worth, I would dust with the multivitamin twice a month and just do the calcium+D3 twice a week and as long as the calcium in the dish is without D3, it's fine to leave it in there. Shane always has such great advice so I have nothing else to add to what he said.
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    Well, I feel oblivious. I figured out why he didn't want to use his warm hide... there was no moss in it! I put some dry moss in there two days ago just to see what would happen, and he's been spending WAY more time in the warm hide since doing so. It's about 50/50 between the two hides, so that's MUCH better in my opinion. I guess he just really likes digging himself little burrows in the moss!

    At any rate, Lavi is still doing well (eating and pooping properly, thanks again Zux you were right about the stool thing), and I am no longer worried about him.

    Thank you all again for everything. You've all been super informative, helpful, and above all kind as Lavi and I worked through this. Thanks again, everyone.
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    Mine gives me an evil glare if he doesn't have a wash cloth under his hide and refuses to go in there, he doesn't like having his moist hide without moss now. These lizards have so much character. I'm glad he's doing much better!
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