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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryL View Post
    Liz tried an experiment where she put 16 mealworms in his dish. He ate 15 of them in about 5 minutes. He looked at the 16th one but then walked away. Though the next day he pooped 5 undigested mealworms back out. She has been keeping him at 8 mealworms a day since then.



    Thank you for designing a menu for Toothless. Currently we have a jar of Zoo Med Reptivite Multivitamin with D3 and a jar of Zoo Med Repti Calcium without D3. She alternates dusting with the two. The mealworms are being gut-loaded with vegetables from your list and also dandelion flowers. We buy the mealworms from Petco, though she also has a container with about 30 beetles hatched from the mealworms. We were hoping they'd breed to make new mealworms but so far it has been about 2 months and no luck.

    We have a "mountain" on the cool side of his habitat and he likes to climb up there to look around when he's alone. We have a webcam in the room to watch him as he still doesn't like to be out much when people are around. When we are in the room, but not close to the habitat, sometimes he'll go up to some place high and just watch us. I didn't know much about geckos and lizards before Liz decided to get them as pets, but I've been pleasantly surprised at how intelligent the little guy appears to be.

    The other day when Liz was feeding him mealworms dusted with calcium, we spilled some on his mountain, and he immediately ran over to lick up all the spilled white powder. I wonder if this means he needs more calcium than what we are giving him...

    Thanks again for taking the time to share all this valuable advice, Elizabeth. It's much appreciated.
    You're welcome, Jerry.

    You mention that Toothless quickly went over to some spilled calcium powder and licked it up. Toothless' Adapted Schedule 124 recommends light dusting with Reptivite multivitamins ONLY @ 1 feeding per week and light dusting with plain calcium carbonate (Repti Calcium withOUT D3) @ 2 feedings per week. That's dusting on Ms-Ws-Fs. Is that what you've been doing? If so, it's alright to more heavily dust the prey on Ws & Fs. Powder sticks to crickets better than to mealworms.

    An easy way to dust the prey is to use a tall 32 ounce deli cup. Add a bit of powder; add crickets or mealworms; then swirl them. If necessary, bounce the mealworms (or crickets) off the bottom of the deli cup to lessen supplementt powder. Tightly cap the 32 ounce deli cup until the next dusting day.

    If you'd like to treat Toothless to some worms that are high in calcium, try hornworms. Petco carries hornworms in 4-packs for about $10. Be sure to buy the small hornworms. Hornworms mushroom in size just about overnight!

    For link 33 click:
    Hornworm Care Guidelines

    Somewhere on Geckos Unlimited I have a link for mealworm breeding.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-28-2021 at 02:43 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Just confirming:

    How often is Toothless eating per week? Have you & Liz been dusting the mealworms 1x per week with Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins with D3 and 2x per week with Zoo Med's Repti VCalcium withOUT D3 (plain calcium carbonate)?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Just confirming:

    How often is Toothless eating per week? Have you & Liz been dusting the mealworms 1x per week with Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins with D3 and 2x per week with Zoo Med's Repti VCalcium withOUT D3 (plain calcium carbonate)?
    Yes, we've been doing all this for Toothless and he's active and energtic and has a great appetite!

    Though we do have a related question on nutrition...

    At the same time we bought Toothless, a family friend also bought another leo gecko from the same litter - we're pretty sure he and Toothless are siblings. They have a little boy a few years younger than Liz who takes care of him - his name is Stripey.

    Recently we've been babysitting Stripey while the family is on vacation. Even though Stripey and Toothless started at the same size three months ago, Toothless is now about twice the length of Stripey. We believe Stripey has been offered calcium but I'm not sure his mealworms get the same kind of dusting that Toothless gets.

    We did some googling and wonder if Stripey has MBD as he seems to have some of the symptoms. A few months ago he was very lively and curious - much more than Toothless who was very shy - but now Stripey seems lethargic all day. We've also noticed that Stripey doesnt stand on his front legs the way Toothless does - he sort of crawls and pulls himself along.

    I've uploaded a short video of Stripey we just made today. I wonder if anyone can tell us what the problem is and what we can do to help him. We have Stripey for two weeks and Liz and I are hoping to help him get better and pass on specific instructions to his owners...



    Thank you for any help or pointers!
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    Here is another video of Stripey.

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    We did some googling and wonder if Stripey has MBD as he seems to have some of the symptoms. A few months ago he was very lively and curious - much more than Toothless who was very shy - but now Stripey seems lethargic all day. We've also noticed that Stripey doesnt stand on his front legs the way Toothless does - he sort of crawls and pulls himself along.

    I've uploaded a short video of Stripey we just made today. I wonder if anyone can tell us what the problem is and what we can do to help him. We have Stripey for two weeks and Liz and I are hoping to help him get better and pass on specific instructions to his owners...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9dI2JmM8Js
    Yes, Stripey DOES have MBD! BOTH Stripey's rear legs are significantly abnormal. Both front arms have been affected too.

    I wonder how Stripey has been supplemented up to now.

    I recommend supplementing Stripey on the same schedule you use for Toothless. Will Stripey eat dusted crickets?
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-29-2021 at 03:43 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Yes, Stripey DOES have MBD! BOTH Stripey's rear legs are significantly abnormal. Both front arms have been affected too.

    I wonder how Stripey has been supplemented up to now.

    I recommend supplementing Stripey on the same schedule you use for Toothless. Will Stripey eat dusted crickets?
    Oh no! I thought this might have been the case...

    I'll have to ask Liz when she's up tomorrow as this is way past her bedtime. From what I know Stripey seems to prefer non-dusted mealworms but he just has a low appetite in general. Toothless can easily eat ten worms a day and wants more. His owners tell us Stripey eats perhaps one or two mealworms every other day. The last few days, Liz has been able to coax him to take four on and off.

    We thought he was probably calcium deficient so Liz has been putting calcium powder on his nose and let him lick it off. She also does the with drops of water. She tells me this works pretty consistently but I don't know if this is the right thing to do.

    Will he get better if we start getting him to take more calcium and vitamins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryL View Post
    Oh no! I thought this might have been the case...

    I'll have to ask Liz when she's up tomorrow as this is way past her bedtime. From what I know Stripey seems to prefer non-dusted mealworms but he just has a low appetite in general. Toothless can easily eat ten worms a day and wants more. His owners tell us Stripey eats perhaps one or two mealworms every other day. The last few days, Liz has been able to coax him to take four on and off.

    We thought he was probably calcium deficient so Liz has been putting calcium powder on his nose and let him lick it off. She also does the with drops of water. She tells me this works pretty consistently but I don't know if this is the right thing to do.

    Will he get better if we start getting him to take more calcium and vitamins?
    I think Stripey's MBD will gradually lessen. I don't think Stripey's MBD will disappear. The MBD I see is fairly advanced.

    Has Liz been giving Stripey Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins with D3 @ 1 feeding per week along with plain Repti Calcium @ 2 feedings per week? If Stripey won't eat dusted mealworms, placing both powders on his nose like Liz is doing may be your only alternative.

    Vitamin D3 is necessary @ 1 feeding per week in order to metabolize ALL the plain calcium he receives.

    Be sure Stripey's mealworms have been gutloaded!
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-29-2021 at 04:13 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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