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    I have to Leoís, Evee and Ellie. They share a tank together due to sharing a tank together previously and get stressed out when separated so they must be together. They have 5 hides (one is humid) and I keep an eye on them always since theyíre in my room.

    I noticed that Evee, wasnít opening her eye. I remember that she had shed and that their was something in her eye, but usually got shed out of her eye so I waited while keeping an eye on her. After a week and no changes, I went out to get Zoo med eye drops, they no longer sell Flunkers eye drops sadly. Then I noticed Ellie was also having issues with stuck shed in her eye even though she hadnít shed, so I was confused but determined to help both of them. I started apply drops to Eveeís eye when I notice her other eye was having issues, applied to both eyes. She seems to be doing better but shuts both eyes, she can open the right but the left gets shut closed so Iíve been giving drops to that eye.

    Today I Applied drops to Ellie but while doing so, she released a light yellow liquid (i was as gentle as I could be, she was just upset I disturbed her beauty sleep). I wiped it carefully and put her back, washing my hands before doing Evee (Iíve been giving them drops twice a day for a week now). After I did Evee, I heard Ellie make a low, scream that baby leopards do but more lower and longer. It looked like she was attempting to poop so I waited and then gently grabbed her when she was done. I noticed, what I can only describe as a white cottage cheese like discharge but it was stretchy and a little hard. I removed all of it gently (I didnít want Ellie to digest it) and she attempted to do that thing again but quickly released it was gone so she licked herself than walked off as of nothing to go sleep.

    Iím worried this might possible be an infection? I have a very small bowl of calcium for them to lick (I saw many gecko owners in YouTube suggest this but I occasionally take it out after a few days so they donít over do it) they love to literally drag it all over the tank so Iím wondering if Elliot squirted water but their was calcium so it mixed together and cause that reaction? Did I make her pee prematurely and since I didnít fully wipe, some was left behind and tried to form as a urinate?

    Iím definitely gonna try and take them to the vet if Ellie does this white cottage cheese thing again or she does something else. Also because itís been a week and theyíre still closing their eyes that I put drops on. When I got my geckos, we had no critical need animals or exotic pets so we felt we could easily afford vet visits if the geckos needed it. But my life took a 360 after the AC failed to work on a hot day while we went out to get groceries, we came back to our dog Sandy lethargic and finding out she hard a rare blood disease. Costed 5,000 dollars for blood transfusions and close to 300 dollars to refill her meds every few weeks. That on top of Covid and bills, itís hard to find money but Iíll do whatever I can for them. I donít want to give them up unless I truly had to.

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    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited!

    How about some background information?
    1. What size is their enclosure?
    2. What is the maximum temp under their warm dry hide?
    3. What is the cool end temp?
    4. Please list the powdered supplements they get: brand, exact name, & frequency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited!

    How about some background information?
    1. What size is their enclosure?
    2. What is the maximum temp under their warm dry hide?
    3. What is the cool end temp?
    4. Please list the powdered supplements they get: brand, exact name, & frequency.
    All the above affects your leos' health. Temps should be measured with the probe of a digital thermometer. Zoo Med makes a decent one for about $10.

    IF something's off, health issues will result. Should their eye problems continue, a vet is really the only answer. They each may need antibiotics.

    All eye problems are serious!

    Temperatures - A temperature gradient from warm to cool maintains your leo's health. Here's a temperature guide for all leopard geckos as measured with the probe of a digital thermometer or a temp gun (and controlled by a thermostat set at 91*F/32.8*C).

    Place the thermostat's probe and a digital thermometer's probe together right on top of the substrate underneath the warm dry hide. If you use a UTH + a CHE you'll need 2 separate thermostats, because ground and air temperatures are substantially different.

    • Warm dry hide ground temperature: 88-92 F (31.1-33.3 C) inside a leo's warm dry hide.
    • Warm humid/moist hide: Place the humid hide 100% on top of the heat mat. Keep temperatures similar to the warm dry hide.
    • Cool dry hide ground temperature: 70ish-75 F (21.1-23.9 C) Usually the cool end ground temperature matches the room temperature where the enclosure sits.
    • no greater than 82ish F (27.8ish C) surface temperature - 4 inches (10 cm) above ground on the warm end
    • no greater than 75 F (23.9 C) surface temperature - 4 inches (10 cm) above ground on the cool end

    Leave the heat mat/UTH on 24/7. If you wish, during the night turn off overhead lighting/heating (~12 hours on and ~12 hours off) unless ambient room temperatures drop lower than 67ish*F (19.4*C).
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 12-12-2020 at 07:58 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Is the 'cottage cheese' what she is passing instead of stool / urate or is it in her eyes. Sorry if I misunderstand.

    But the eye issue could be from lack of vitamin A - if they are only getting plain calcium, then then need to also have calcium WITH vitamin D3 and a good multivitamin WITHOUT D3. Eye and ear infections in reptiles are often from lack of specific vitamins.

    Second, if Evee made noise while trying to pass something, she could be dehydrated, making the urates harder to pass or causing constipation and preventing her from passing stool. On that note are you sure they are both female? even with not being with a male she could have eggs, and sometimes the eggs can get stuck. IF they get stuck they can burst and leak too.
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