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    So I have a 1.5 year old female leapord gecko. A few months ago I noticed her getting sacks under her armpits which I assumed were from calcium so I took the calcium dish out of her enclosure. They did not go away after a month and a half and seemed to get bigger. For about 2 months now she’s been on a diet of about 6-7 mealworms a week and a significant decrease in calcium intake. As about a month ago shes had no calcium dustings yet they STILL seem to not go away or decrease. What could this be? I don’t believe she’s overweight, and should I start giving her calcium again? I don’t want her to not have the proper minerals and get MBD. Could it be too much vitamins? I give her them every couple of feedings lightly dusting.Does she look overweight? Also I feel that picture doesn’t do justice of how big the sacks usually look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charley View Post
    So I have a 1.5 year old female leapord gecko. A few months ago I noticed her getting sacks under her armpits which I assumed were from calcium so I took the calcium dish out of her enclosure. They did not go away after a month and a half and seemed to get bigger. For about 2 months now she’s been on a diet of about 6-7 mealworms a week and a significant decrease in calcium intake. As about a month ago shes had no calcium dustings yet they STILL seem to not go away or decrease. What could this be? I don’t believe she’s overweight, and should I start giving her calcium again? I don’t want her to not have the proper minerals and get MBD. Could it be too much vitamins? I give her them every couple of feedings lightly dusting.Does she look overweight? Also I feel that picture doesn’t do justice of how big the sacks usually look.

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    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited!

    Your leo does not look overweight. Please share a 60 second video of this leo walking around on some solid surface like a carpet so we can check out her gait.

    Please share the exact brand & name of the supplements you use, and the frequency of each.

    Generally leaving pure calcium carbonate in the enclosure for self-help is unnecessary.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Thanks for the quick reply! Prior to this “diet” I used Flukers Calcium WITHOUT D3 every 3 feedings, feeding her about 6 crickets 3 times a week, and on every 4th feeding I use Flukers reptile vitamins with beta cerotene. I have since then fed her about 7 mealworms a week and doing calcium one feeding, vitamins the next, and then no supplements on the third feeding. And then repeat. The link below should bring you to a video of her gait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charley View Post
    Thanks for the quick reply! Prior to this “diet” I used Flukers Calcium WITHOUT D3 every 3 feedings, feeding her about 6 crickets 3 times a week, and on every 4th feeding I use Flukers reptile vitamins with beta cerotene. I have since then fed her about 7 mealworms a week and doing calcium one feeding, vitamins the next, and then no supplements on the third feeding. And then repeat. The link below should bring you to a video of her gait.
    https://streamable.com/k11fss
    You're welcome!

    Thanks so much! Your leo's gait looks strong. I see no signs of MBD. Plain calcium inside the enclosure may account for the armpit bubbles you see.

    How are you giving your leo vitamin D3? I'm a bit puzzled. Usually Vitamin D3 is necessary for absorbing calcium. I would switch to Zoo Med's supplements, because Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins contains pre-formed vitamin A acetate (retinol). Fluker's multivitamins only contains pro-formed vitamin A (beta carotene).

    A wee bit of retinol helps prevent eye and skin problems in geckos. That's not true for beta carotene.

    Weekly Schedule 126 for Leopard Geckos 18 months old +
    (withOUT UVB)
    Adapted for your leopard gecko
    Metabolic bone disease (MBD) symptoms include uneven (lopsided) gait, walking on one or both "elbows", bowed limbs, belly dragging, and an underbite. Difficulty chewing should be closely monitored.
    The Reptile Supply Company (916-226-4089) based in Lodi, California stocks Zoo Med's ReptiVite multivitamins withOUT D3.

    • Monday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitmins with D3
    • Thursday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with Fluker's plain calcium (or with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium withOUT D3)
    • Saturday > > Optional: mealworms, superworms, or black soldier fly larvae (Phoenix worms) > > no dusting



    For link 126 click: Weekly Feeding & Supplement Schedule 126 for leopard geckos 18 months old +
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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    The Flukers Multivitamin contains D3, but I will definitely switch her to the Zoo Med. Do you believe the armpit bubbles are due to excess calcium then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by charley View Post
    The Flukers Multivitamin contains D3, but I will definitely switch her to the Zoo Med. Do you believe the armpit bubbles are due to excess calcium then?
    Yes I do.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Sorry, I just reread your other reply and saw you said that, this site always shows up weird on my phone haha. Thanks so much for your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by charley View Post
    Sorry, I just reread your other reply and saw you said that, this site always shows up weird on my phone haha. Thanks so much for your help!
    Anytime, Charley! NO problem.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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