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    Hello, all!

    I'm starting this thread because after an ordeal with my youngest Leo Lavi, I found that his temps needed to be a bit higher than the normal range to facilitate his appetite. Wondering why this was, I went back to the store my Leos came from and asked them what their warm temps were... they were up to 99 F!!! I know this is too hot to even consider, mine are currently 93-95 degrees, and they love it. When I asked them how long the geckos I got had been there, they had apparently been kept at that temp for weeks. I can only assume my Lavi and Lore got used to higher than normal temps, and now need them.

    I tried a range of 88-90 degrees for a few weeks, and all this resulted in was cranky geckos with stomach aches. I did verify these temps with a heat gun and a Zoo Med Reptitherm Digital Thermometer (both of which are calibrated) and double checked their health with my Herp vet. He said both are perfectly healthy and to not change anything. He was actually surprised they were healthy after what I told him about their original conditions at the pet shop.

    I've been poking around on this forum quite a bit, and some seem to agree that 93-95 is good, while others stick to the 88-90 range. Which do you all think is better?

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    I just bumped my thermostat up to 92* or 93*, was going to try it out and see how Ziggy liked it. If he hates slightly warmer temps, then I'm going to turn it back down to 91*. I honestly think it's all in what they prefer and if they like slightly warmer temps, so long as it does not exceed 95*, then why not keep them that way.
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    Say, what kind of thermostat do you use? I use the hydrofarm ones, but am curious about other types.

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    I use the hydrofarm one to.
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    Great idea for a topic.

    When I started researching Leopard Geckos I promised myself I would listen to every single piece of advice I could, read every article and watch every video but having done that I then decided to ensure I didn't blindly follow every detail from any once source and instead use the information I had gathered to develop my own custom husbandry based on how my Leo reacted to things I did.

    It is normal I feel for there to be safe ranges given as advice for all aspects of care and to have those ranges err on the side of caution is wise for the inexperienced owner which is what the 88-92 range does.

    I personally have found my Leo seems to prefer it slightly warmer also and my warm side floor is generally around the 93 mark, since she had it bumped up she spends less time trying to warm up and more time doing other things. Another keeper I know and trust has a hot spot at 95+ which he says his gecko uses at certain times of every day.

    What we do know is that in their natural environment temperatures vary greatly and as such they are capable of thriving across a range of temperatures. Like so many other things it likely depends on the gecko as to what exact conditions they prefer and as such its down to us to figure out what suits them best.

    PS: I use pulse proportional thermostats for UTH and CHE so my temperatures stay exact at all times.
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    My husband spent 5 months in the area where they come from and the day time temperatures got up to 150* during the day and about 95-99* at night.
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    I keep the ground temperatures underneath the warm dry hide in the 88-92*F range.

    I use the Hydrofarm MTPRTC for my leo. It's the only inexpensive thermostat available (that I know of) that has a small metal probe and a digital readout. All the other models have bulky probes and dial adjustments.

    Proportional thermostats start at about $99. Spyder Robotics is a USA brand.
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    @JessJohnson87

    YIKES! In that case, I'm surprised we don't have gecko-sicles by keeping them at 88-92 F! But it really is like Zane said, it depends on the gecko. Mine just like things a little toasty.

    It's interesting to see such wide responses so far. And thanks again for that insight, Zane!
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    So far mine doesn't seem to mind the slight temperature increase on the warm side, I have not seen him retreat to the cool hide yet. The outside temperatures are really wonky right now so I don't blame him for wanting to stay warm, I'm freezing.
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    Seems that in my years of keeping leo's I've always kept my thermostat for my UTH at 90-95F and never had any issues. That range seems to be a good Happy-Medium.
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