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    Lightbulb Have any Makeshift Stand Ideas? Need a gameplan. Lots of reading ahead.


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    Today, after my class, I was determined. I was gonna go out and start the process of getting my little baby girl a bigger tank by getting something bigger to put her future bigger home on. As you can tell, it didnít go so well. I wound up in quite a bit of agony for nothing. Sort of suspecting scoliosis at this point.

    We are currently in a bit of a pickle with our finances. My dad has been laid off a bit back and is having trouble finding a job since he isnít well adapted to the new age, and I have various health issues that make getting a job not very viable for me, no matter how much I wish otherwise. Still working on a degree to negate that, but its gonna be a while. At least I have an income to help out with, even if it isnít much. Then to top it off, [COLOR=ď#B22222Ē]there isnít much space in the bedroom for a table, so I donít have many options. 34x20 is about as much as it can get before I have trouble getting out of the bed[/COLOR]. I donít mind too much though, Iím quite adaptive. But Sahyuvonnos definitely needs a bigger tank than her tiny 10 gallon. I canít stand her not having as much room as the geckos at the vivarium to ignore the existence of and stay in her humid hide with. A good lesson in life, sometimes love isnít enough, despite what some would say. I try to play with her whenever she gets restless, but she at the point where she is sort of annoyed at me. I even got her a cat toy to roll around. She didnít care at all. Must have had something to do with me accidentally rolling it into her face. Maybe I should put the toilet paper roll in there again. She loved that.

    After a trip for some d3 calcium at Petco (may need to make a post about that too...) I went to Ikea. That place is a maze even with the map. And my physical condition didnít help one bit. But I pushed on with determination. I just wanted an affordable surface to put Sahyuís future epic tank on, was that so much to ask?

    Apparently it was.

    I had my heart set on a table that would fit either a exo terra med low or a plain 20 long aquarium. But when I FINALLY found the table, I didnít like that it wobbled a bit. I asked a lady that worked there about a suitable table to put a terrarium on, she warned me about the hollow make or something like that. I donít remember, but she was worried about the table cracking and terrible things happening. So after more than a bit of wandering about and having the terrible realization that Iím too poor right now for even Ikea when it comes to somewhat sturdy furniture, a lady told me about the ďas is" section.

    I hoped that there was something there. There was. Sort of. In the back they had table tops. But a man told me about the table top that I found being weak and as such could easily crack. So I thought Home Depot must surely have sturdy wood. So I went to Home Depot in search of good wood. At this point I was in agony, but I was filled with determination that Sahyu would have an awesome enclosure to sleep and stare creepily at me in.

    Unfortunately I came to the realization that I need a way to get my purchases home if I found anything. Iím not the brightest bulb in the world when it comes to living in general, so I should have realized that I was in no condition to get anything home. I guess I was thinking I could carry it on my head like I did something else when I was younger. Home Depot had big shopping basket, but I have to be careful with my money. I could hear Dad in the back of my head telling me off for buying it. Gonna have to go to China Town and get one eventually and donate my smaller one.

    But I have somewhat good news. I eventually found the shelves. They are definitely strong and long enough at 12Ē x 36Ē. My plan is to get two of them to form the table top. The ďlegsĒ are where the plan falls apart. I planned on using milk crates to be the ďlegsĒ of the table. My train of though is that since I used to use milk crates as a bed when I was little, that they should be good enough as a table. Luckily I tried it out at the store. The crates and the board could be separated too easily if nudged or knocked. I am a person that almost literally trips on her own shadow, so that isnít a good idea. But later on, I thought of using the twine I got outside Ikea to tie the boards somewhat to the milk crates so that they couldnít separate.

    At that point, I realized that I should retreat and strategize. But I need help since the obvious tends to evade me. Better to have multiple brains than one for information gathering. Thats why I came here. You are all way more experienced than I am, after all. Google doesnít hold all of the answers. I have a few ideas. But lesson learned, I should get a large shopping basket.

    1. My original milk crate/shelf plan, making sure to twine the milk crates together into immobility like a spider. Then to twine the shelves to the milk crate table. Maybe only on the part that wont have the heat mat above it.

    2. Replace milk crates with a large storage tote or two tall ones to support each end. That way I can even cut a hole in the side and store stuff in them. Not sure about how the storage totes would handle heat mat, though. And they would have the same issue as the milk crate, without holes to twine them together.

    3. Get shelves by themselves and put them and the tank on the ground. Too bad about my clumsiness. And will that cause the carpet to get hot through the wood? The carpet is really old and pretty bad. No amount of carpet shampooing is gonna help that poor thing.

    4. Get a large basket this month and hope with all of my heart that something else doesnít come up financially to screw us over even further *knock on wood*. Then get an actual stand or something solidly built and then hopefully the tank next month.

    5. I am open to any other suggestions except giving Sahyu up (she is pretty much my anchor to living, sort of like an unofficial therapy pet, and what if she winds up with a bad person) or delivery (Very paranoid about strangers (never even answer the door), quality of product (empty box, anyone?), identity theft, and other potential problems that come with buying things from online. Heck, I only use cash to buy stuff and use gift cards for any digital transactions.) I know its not the best way to live, but iíve been burned too many time before.

    Donít suggest I make my own. My tremors and general clumsiness means that my fingers/toes and the hammer would get very acquainted. Regardless, I am gonna need to recover for quite a while from this adventure. But I learned quite a bit.

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    How about a 20 long: 30 x 12 x 12 inches? Your leo would love that. Petcos and Petsmarts have frequent $1-per-gallon sales.

    Here's my 20 long. 12 yo leo Cha lives there. She's 9 inches long and about 62 grams right now.
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    Here's another idea:
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    In an Exo Terra medium low (24 x 18 x 12) you could create a diagonal gradient. For instance, use an 8 x 18 heat mat across the back. Then one corner could be your warm dry hide with your warm moist hide literally next to it. The cool corner could be one of the front corners.

    I heard glasscages.com makes 20 long vivs with front doors. However, the reviews I saw about the company were negative.


    PS:
    Have you checked out Craigslist for stands, shelves, even enclosures?
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    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

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    I’ve decided on a 20 L and already have a larger cart. I really like the idea of twining together of crates, but that may just be nostalgia talking. XD Love those setups. I think I also like the idea of 2 end tables for it. Thankies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonemperess View Post
    I’ve decided on a 20 L and already have a larger cart. I really like the idea of twining together of crates, but that may just be nostalgia talking. XD Love those setups. I think I also like the idea of 2 end tables for it. Thankies!
    You're certainly welcome!

    When you get the 20 long tank, buy an 11 x 17 inch heat mat. That will not be too large. It fits just right. Ultratherm and Fluker's make that size.

    Click:
    https://www.amazon.com/Flukers-Repti.../dp/B00164PW9S

    https://www.amazon.com/Ultratherm-Un.../dp/B0051WUY6C

    The Reptile Supply Company based in Sacramento, CA is a great place to order supplies from: Wholesale Reptile Supplies & Feeders - Reptile Supply Company

    I'd love to see your leo's new home some day.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 03-22-2017 at 04:14 AM.
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    I think I found my stand makeup. Do you think two of these would be durable enough?

    Target : Expect More. Pay Less.
    These things are pretty great, I already have 3 of the 3-drawers in my room. I may have a problem...

    Definitely not gonna have the wheels on them! Sorry, Sahyu, I know you would enjoy the ride, but that wouldn’t end too well. Reptile skates could be a thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonemperess View Post
    I think I found my stand makeup. Do you think two of these would be durable enough?

    Target : Expect More. Pay Less.
    These things are pretty great, I already have 3 of the 3-drawers in my room. I may have a problem...

    Definitely not gonna have the wheels on them! Sorry, Sahyu, I know you would enjoy the ride, but that wouldn’t end too well. Reptile skates could be a thing...
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonemperess
    Not sure about how the storage totes would handle heat mat, though.
    I recommend wooden end tables or a wooden or metal stand, especially because of the heat mat. Even then I'd elevate the corners and center of the 20 long with some small tiles.

    Plastic disintegrates over time. The heat from your UTH will cause the plastic to become brittle more quickly.

    I don't know how heavy a 20 long enclosure will be after you add a substrate of textured ceramic tile or slate.

    Can you check out Craigslist?
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 03-24-2017 at 05:09 AM.
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    "May the peace that
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    I completely forgot about the logic of plastic melting. Not surprising considering how addled I am. I actually wound up getting some wood blocks to lift up her tank since the furniture slider things went squish. I have accepted that I need to get some end tables. I may have to get over my paranoia of someone trying to murder me from craigslist. Although Target has some lovely end tables that dazzle my soul. I love the light blue one. But this isn’t about me. Target : Expect More. Pay Less.
    Maybe another trip to ikea is in order? Sahyu is loving perching on my neck in the meantime. Too bad about the nails digging into my flesh, but it tickles a bit too.
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    I should just go out with my new huge cart and all of my savings to go get my baby her tables that she will never be aware of the existence of. As soon as I have all of my college work done and am in a good shape. They have a bed bath, and beyond nearby after all. And I like those small metal tables they have. There is also a goodwill that may have something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonemperess View Post
    I should just go out with my new huge cart and all of my savings to go get my baby her tables that she will never be aware of the existence of. As soon as I have all of my college work done and am in a good shape. They have a bed bath, and beyond nearby after all. And I like those small metal tables they have. There is also a goodwill that may have something.
    Yes, DO IT!

    How long is this light blue coffee table?

    Click: Target : Expect More. Pay Less.

    You have many reasonably priced options. Best wishes for finding a sturdy stand for your leo's new home.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 03-28-2017 at 12:59 AM.
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    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    I just saw where Zilla is making a 20 gallon LONG with front doors that locks. Can you find the link?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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