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    Hi there I have an adult gecko at least 1 year old now named Milo had him about 6-7 month. Here is a pic of his vivarium at the min.
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    He is a messy bugger lol on the cold side at min its around 25-26c during day and I have a heat mat on his warm side with a ceramic tile and that hovers around 33-34c 24/7. But its getting colder now and am worried about cold side dropping too much. Was thinking about getting a heat lamp and keeping heat mat just to warm ambient temp up but not sure how I would set it up. Currently I just have an led 12 watt house bulb in that gives of virtually no heat on a timer comes on around 7am and goes of about 6.30pm now.

    Any help appreciated.
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    Hello!

    You did not mention a thermostat? Do you have one? This will hold your heat mat's temperatures appropriately regardless of air temps. If air temperatures drop below the ones listed in the following guide, consider a Ceramic Heat Emiter which gives off over the head heat 24/7 while a lamp only can safely emit heat during the day.

    A temperature gradient from warm to cool maintains your leo's health. Here's a temperature guide for all leopard geckos as measured with the probe of a digital thermometer (and controlled by a thermostat set at 91*F/32.8*C):
    •88-92 F (31.1-33.3 C) ground temperature right underneath a leo's warm dry hide
    •no greater than 82ish F (27.8ish C) air temperature - 4 inches above ground on the warm end
    •no greater than 75 F (23.9 C) air temperature - 4 inches above ground on the cool end

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoppyDear View Post
    Hello!

    You did not mention a thermostat? Do you have one? This will hold your heat mat's temperatures appropriately regardless of air temps. If air temperatures drop below the ones listed in the following guide, consider a Ceramic Heat Emiter which gives off over the head heat 24/7 while a lamp only can safely emit heat during the day.

    A temperature gradient from warm to cool maintains your leo's health. Here's a temperature guide for all leopard geckos as measured with the probe of a digital thermometer (and controlled by a thermostat set at 91*F/32.8*C):
    88-92 F (31.1-33.3 C) ground temperature right underneath a leo's warm dry hide
    no greater than 82ish F (27.8ish C) air temperature - 4 inches above ground on the warm end
    no greater than 75 F (23.9 C) air temperature - 4 inches above ground on the cool end

    Cute tank!
    Hi thanks for reply poppydear. Yes i do have a thermostat controlling the hear mat. I already have a basking bulb but obviously need a dimming stat to control it. I am thinking just getting a dimming stat and setting this up with basking bulb at desired temp i.e keeping it warmish during day and reducing temp during night. Would still keep the led house light but keep it switched off and using it just for extra viewing light and feeding occasionally.
    This sound good?
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    As long as air temps don't exceed 82F and are appropriately cooler on the cool side, providing a proper gradient, I think your plan is fine. Also make sure temps don't drop below 67F at night lest you might need a CHE. Just to clarify, all lighting will be off at night, correct?

    Make sure your bulb is not colored (Example: Red bulb) either and your method of temperature control is accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoppyDear View Post
    As long as air temps don't exceed 82F and are appropriately cooler on the cool side, providing a proper gradient, I think your plan is fine. Also make sure temps don't drop below 67F at night lest you might need a CHE. Just to clarify, all lighting will be off at night, correct?

    Make sure your bulb is not colored (Example: Red bulb) either and your method of temperature control is accurate.

    Good luck!
    Hi poppydear. A couple of issues maybe will the dimmer stat allow me to switch the heat lamp of or will it need to run constantly? Yeh i intend all lighting to be of at night but like i say can the heat bulb be turned down to effectly switch of?

    I dont fully understand this gradient temp business i use a heat mat controlled by a thermostat and have a digital probe monitoring this temp and i have 1 other digital probe monitoring cold side. Are you saying i should also have a 3rd probe monitoring my warm side air temp to make sure it doesnt go over 82f?

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    A dimmer thermostat will control the amount of heat your bulb emits by dimming and brightening it, but from most of the ones I have seen, it runs 24/7 unless you unplug it. I don't know if it can be turned down enough to produce no heat and no light because most thermostats have a minimum as to how hot something has to be first (i.e. 80min & 110F max). You may not be able to get the temperature setting to go low enough to turn the light off completely, it may just be very dim. You're much better off getting a timer to turn your light on and off.

    The gradient is like this:

    Tank Gradient

    Cool Side
    Warm Side
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Air Temp Probe
    UTH (Ground) & Bulb (Air) Thermostat Probes


    Quote Originally Posted by Geck_Milo View Post
    Are you saying i should also have a 3rd probe monitoring my warm side air temp to make sure it doesnt go over 82f?

    Yes, you will want a third probe, that will be the dimmer Thermostat probe to control the temperatures (Maybe set it to 78F or so, whatever keeps it warm but keeps the cool side cool enough).
    Temps should be monitored on the cool side and the heating both controlled and measured on the warm side. A temperature measuring probe on the cool side, a thermostat probe on the ground above the heat mat to control it (Sometimes people also pair this with another temperature measuring probe to double check temps) and another thermostat probe to control air temps of the warm side (Some people also pair it as previously mentioned). What I mean with the gradient, is that with smaller tanks (What are the dimmensions of yours?) getting a difference in temperature from hot to cold sides is difficult in a small space. If your tank dimmensions are similar to a 10 gallon tank then all the measurement tools are needed to make sure there is a good gradient. Did this help?
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    Hi poppydear my dimensions are 22.5(l)x16(d)x14.5(w) inches. Your explanation has helped abit I think. Can I put a timer device onto the dimmerstat would it work? So what is the best way to get the required temperature gradient, if I say put the heat bulb nearer the warm side or the cold side?

    thanks again poppy, btw I live in England notice your NJ climate bit different here lol

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    Your tank is a pretty good size, a little short in length but I think you'll be fine. Firstly, I believe a timer will work, you just plug your lamp into the dimmer and then into the timer and set accordingly. Put the bulb nearest to the warm side and check your temperatures, if they are in the appropriate zones, heating up the warm side and leaving the cool side cool it is perfect. You may have to move it around and experiment with your temperature settings a bit (Not over 82F as mentioned) to get it right.

    Very different! We too, are getting into the colder months in NY as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoppyDear View Post
    Your tank is a pretty good size, a little short in length but I think you'll be fine. Firstly, I believe a timer will work, you just plug your lamp into the dimmer and then into the timer and set accordingly. Put the bulb nearest to the warm side and check your temperatures, if they are in the appropriate zones, heating up the warm side and leaving the cool side cool it is perfect. You may have to move it around and experiment with your temperature settings a bit (Not over 82F as mentioned) to get it right.

    Very different! We too, are getting into the colder months in NY as well!
    Yeh think it all makes more sense now poppyhead thanks will let you know. Yeh getting colder in new york but possibly not like -5 to -10 celsius lol

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    Hi poppyhead think gonna go che bulb just wondering what wattage you think with my viv dimensions to achieve good tank temps.

    Thanks again

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