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    Hi! So, everyone I ask has had a different opinion about this and I donít really know what to do. I am getting a baby leo in November and was wondering if I a need UVB light? I am going to be supplementing with zoo med calcium without D3 and Repashy Calcium plus, I will also let my feeders (mainly Dubia roaches and mealworms, but sometimes other things too) eat and crawl around in Flukers cricket diet (they will also be gut loaded and then dusted with the above supplements) there will a small dish of the calcium without D3 in the enclosure and I will be dusting too. Is there anything wrong with that, and do I need UVB light, especially because Iím getting a little baby?
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    You do not need UVB, from what I have read it would just be a bonus that hopefully they can benefit from. As far as I know proper supplementation should be enough to ensure your gecko will do well
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    Quote Originally Posted by abigailM View Post
    Hi! So, everyone I ask has had a different opinion about this and I don’t really know what to do. I am getting a baby leo in November and was wondering if I a need UVB light? I am going to be supplementing with zoo med calcium without D3 and Repashy Calcium plus, I will also let my feeders (mainly Dubia roaches and mealworms, but sometimes other things too) eat and crawl around in Flukers cricket diet (they will also be gut loaded and then dusted with the above supplements) there will a small dish of the calcium without D3 in the enclosure and I will be dusting too. Is there anything wrong with that, and do I need UVB light, especially because I’m getting a little baby?
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    Welcome aboard, abigailM!

    Mostly your plans sound good. However, Fluker's High Calcium Cricket Food is NOT really high calcium at all. Instead I recommend this dry insect diet for your dubia & mealworm bedding.

    Here's a healthy dry diet/bedding for mealworms/superworms and for bugs too! After you get mealworms or superworms, replace the bedding they come in with already ground Professional Reptiles' Pro Gutload dry insect & worm diet (1-775-359-1085). Let's keep those worms in 6 quart plastic Sterilite tubs with bedding & ventilation at room temperature, NOT in the refrigerator.

    Here's Repashy's Calcium Plus Schedule 144 that includes plain calcium carbonate like Zoo Med's Repti Calcium withOUT D3 for different aged leos.

    Schedule(s) 144: Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins for Leopard Geckos
    (withOUT UVB)
    Metabolic bone disease (MBD) symptoms include uneven (lopsided) gait, walking on one or both "elbows", bowed limbs, belly dragging, and an underbite. Difficulty chewing should be closely monitored.
    1. Feeding & Supplementing HATCHLING leopard geckos - 0-2 months old & any slow-growing leopard geckos under ~6 grams ~ Feed 3x per week.
    • Feed Tuesdays, Thursdays, & Saturdays
    • Dust prey with Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins at every other feeding
    • ALSO: Keep a bottle cap of plain calcium in the cage 24/7.
    • [See dusting chart below]

    2. Feeding & Supplementing JUVENILE leopard geckos ~ Feed 3x per week.
    • Feed Tuesdays, Thursdays, & Saturdays
    • Dust prey with Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins at every other feeding
    • [See dusting chart below]

    3. Feeding & Supplementing ADULT leopard geckos ~ Feed 2x per week.
    • Mondays ~ feed (no dusting)
    • Thursdays ~ feed & dust prey with Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins


    \/ \/ \/


    R = Repashy's Calcium Plus, Cc = pure precipitated calcium carbonate (withOUT vitamin D3)

    Week 1 Repashy dusting (for HATCHLINGS & JUVENILES):
    M-------T-------W------Th-------F-------Sat-------Sun
    ............R..................................... ......R...................

    Week 2 Repashy dusting (for HATCHLINGS & JUVENILES):
    M-------T-------W------Th-------F-------Sat-------Sun
    ..................................R............... ...........................


    -----> For hatchlings 0-2 months old & any slow-growing leopard geckos under ~6 grams: Aliza also places a bottle cap of pure precipitated calcium carbonate (withOUT vitamin D3) in the cage 24/7.


    For link 144 click: Schedule(s) 144: Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins for Leopard Geckos
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Okay, I will get that instead. For the dusting, should I only dust with Repashy calcium plus or the zoo med calcium too? And I thought you were supposed to feed the babies every day, or am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abigailM View Post
    Okay, I will get that instead. For the dusting, should I only dust with Repashy calcium plus or the zoo med calcium too? And I thought you were supposed to feed the babies every day, or am I missing something?
    Schedule(s) 144 is the schedule Aliza used when she bred leopard geckos for many years. Perhaps she tweaked it a little? I hope Aliza will stop by this thread. @acpart

    I prefer dusting the prey instead of keeping plain calcium carbonate inside the enclosure. For a leo 0-12 months old just lightly dust prey 3x per week. Even when your leo eats daily, don't dust daily!
    For young leos 0-12 months old I suggest:
    Monday ~ Lightly dust with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3
    Wednesday ~ Lightly dust with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium withOUT D3
    Friday ~ Lightly dust with Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins withOUT D3

    For link 124 click: Weekly Feeding & Supplement Schedule 124 for leopard geckos 0-12 months old

    For link 125 click: Weekly Feeding & Supplement Schedule 125 for leopard geckos 12-18 months old

    For link 126 click: Weekly Feeding & Supplement Schedule 126 for leopard geckos 18 months old+
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 09-16-2021 at 01:56 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Here's what I'm doing now with my leopard geckos (it may be the same thing as the schedule Elizabeth posted, but I just didn't want to have to process it all tonight):

    Monday: feeders without supplement (in my case, crickets and superworms)
    Thursday: feeders with supplement (I usually just do crickets to make things easier, but I have used both feeders supplemented).

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    Schedule(s) 144: Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins for Leopard Geckos
    (withOUT UVB)
    Metabolic bone disease (MBD) symptoms include uneven (lopsided) gait, walking on one or both "elbows", bowed limbs, belly dragging, and an underbite. Difficulty chewing should be closely monitored.
    1. Feeding & Supplementing HATCHLING leopard geckos - 0-2 months old & any slow-growing leopard geckos under ~6 grams ~ Feed 3x per week.
    • Feed Tuesdays, Thursdays, & Saturdays
    • Dust prey with Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins at every other feeding
    • ALSO: Keep a bottle cap of plain calcium in the cage 24/7.
    • [See dusting chart below]



    For 0-12 mo old leos, I recommend either Schedule 124 or Aliza's Schedule 144, #1.

    I don't believe Aliza keeps young leos any longer.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 09-19-2021 at 03:33 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    That's right, no more breeding or acquisitions (with rare exceptions) due to being a crypto positive house.

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