I just thought I would add one last thing. Let's be clear on his case stats. This murder happened over 30yrs ago when our crime investigation techniques and equipment were not precise as they are today. His institutionalization (sp?) had nothing to do with his position with the crips, only the alleged murders. As far as I know, the only people to witness the crime were the victims and the accused. No tapes, no living witnesses, etc. No I don't dispute that his position in the crips laid the pipework for other terrible crimes, but that's not what his bid was about. And I would like to re-state that the evidence presented was non-definitive. Just think about how many people have been prosecuted and later found "not guilty" on charges after spending their lives in jail/prison systems. I am in no way defending the life he led before he was internalized, but I do believe strongly in redemption. Now on the issue of morality, as for his being responsible for the consequential deaths of victims, I simply don't buy it. That's shifting blame from those that actually committed the crime to those that ordered it. While he may be "evil" for ordering them, at best he could be considered an accessory if there is no evidence of coercion. Once again, I am not defending the life he led prior to his "bid," but if we are to consider the morality of various acts by individuals, we must not ignore similar acts committed by those in power. I digress...