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Nicolas

Nicolas

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is'nt it ?
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kozmo

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WHAT?!? How did you get Parsonii lol, back when I kept Chams that was like the holy grail of Chameleons.

I know Kammerflage Kreations here in the US had some for sale a while back, did it come from them by chance?
 
Nicolas

Nicolas

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Kozmo : I keep 2,2 parsonii from 4 different european bloodlines. They are now 3 years old and ready for breeding. I let you know the following ...
 
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WildEyeReptiles

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A bunch of parsoni just came in a month or two ago, and a lot of people have them. Most are not paired up, or breeding age though. Kammers do still have them.
 
Nicolas

Nicolas

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you're right lot of """""captive born parsonii """"" have arrived for some monthes in Europe too. They are product in a giant terrarium ... Madagascar LOL !!!

How are still alive after 6 monthes ?

But they also are now in old Europe true CB orange eyes parsonii.
 
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kozmo

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Do you keep your collection outdoors?

Any shots of the enclosures or more of your collection? These are some great pics :D
 
Nicolas

Nicolas

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some are outdoor (parsonii, jacksonii xantholophus, deremensis ...) some are inside all the year cause it is too hot outside and the hygrometry is too low.

Nathan : I can feel the chameleon's devil in you !!! :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

let us speak abou it in Hamm ...
 
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kozmo

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So how hot does it get in Switzerland and which ones can't be kept outdoors. I figured Parsonii would have been one of the ones that had to stay inside, I always thought they needed it to be a bit on cooler side.
 
Nicolas

Nicolas

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this year it was very hot in july (35 C !!!) too hot for parsonii so they stay indoor ; august is perfect (23-26C day and 12-14C night) just looking out to spray twice a day.

Jacksonii xantholophus are perfect outdoor keeping chams.

I have to say parsonii is perhaps one of the easiest chams I have kept for lot of years. The most important difficulty is just to get perfect animals without endemic pathogens. If you follow 5 laws : not to hot, not to sunny, no stress and optimal ventilation and hygrometry, you will have success. The calumma parsonii group's size and weight are helpfull, with a chams about 50 cm and 400 gr you can give medics at optimal posology in case of. Impossible with little chams about 20 gr !!!.
We have sometimes to give qinolon or metronidazol to our chams and with little spc, the kidney's toxicity is quickly got !!! Kidney's disease are very very common by chams (post renal disease by dehydration also).
Some years ago, with some of the first parsonii import we have a very big problem : acute lung infection with a heavy pathogen : mycobacterium spc, first we were afraid it could be a mycobactrium near tuberculosis group or a possible transspecific pathogen, it was not !!! but all chams died in a few weeks.

2 years later was a very good import and lots of parsonii (orange eyes) still living and breeding in Europe are comming from this group.

Now an important group of orange eyes parsonii is OK in Europe, problem is with yellow lips parsonii who are more sensitive in captivity.

SORRY FOR MY POOR ENGLISH !!!
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kozmo

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Great information, thank you for sharing. parsonii don't seem to be as available here in the states, at least from what I have seen. Other than Ed and Liddy Kammer of Kammerflage Kreations I dont know of anyone keeping them.
 
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