Just saying hello and sharing a klemmeri pic

[Phelsumaker]

Hello to the forum- I have been going over a lot of the post here on the phelsuma pages and it looks like a good amount of knowledge and encouragement is being shared. I'm out here in Colorado and am currently breeding P.m.grandis and P. klemmeri in the Phelsuma category. Most of my collection are offspring from a collection of Phelsuma Joe F. and I put together a couple of years ago. Just looking forward to sharing and gaining knowledge with all of you best regards -Dan Baker

 

[JBReptiles]

NIce to have another Phelsuma Keeper.We need al we can get.
Joes got awsome animals.CAnt wait till hell let some klemmeri go for me.
Nice pic BTW.

 

[Phelsumaker]

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome! Yes Joe does have some amazing creatures-I must say that klemmeri are my absolute favorite. The fact that they can always be found just basking I think is one of their more rewarding traits. I'm sure your patience will pay off in the end and your rewards will be plentiful. -Baker

 

[Joe Farah]

Jeff, by the time you are my age your collection will blow mine away! I'm sure of that. In fact you'll probably top me here in a year or 2. - You're already well on your way -

Thanks for the compliments guys

Nice pic, Baker. Is that your youngest offspring?

 

[Phelsumaker]

a young adult female

She is my youngest adult female named Sirrah and is the mate to Orion. Hopefully they will breed for me this season! Here is a pic of Orion I took this morning

 

[Palex134]

Im so jealous! Your klemmeri are gorgeous! Ever wanna sell any let me know! I love them, and am always looking for more!

 

[HUNDO188]

did any of you phelsuma keepers notice that some of the klemmeri have more yellow heads then others. also more spots than others, most of my klemmeri dont have as many spots as the recent photos that have been posted or i have been seeing online.i have to take some more pictures of my whole collection this week and i will post some more pictures so you see what im talking about. by the way very nice klemmeri.

 

[Joe Farah]

Definately Hundo! Baker and I were just talking about that. Some of ours have many black speckles on their heads, others have none. Some of ours have greenish heads while others are pure yellow.

Also, some of my offspring have creases of skin on their necks, while others are smooth and seamless.

I'd definately like to see some pics of yours!

 

[Palex134]

my female has a really dull head, shes also 3, but she isnt as nice as my male.

 

[Phelsumaker]

Older female

My older female definately shows much duller colors then my young female- I think she is close to the end of her breeding stage of life. But the male still plays the mating game with her she just seems much less responsive and often hides from him- on the topic of head colors I have some that show a red color in the yellow especially noticable when they have been radiated with sun light for a short time. Often the hue of the the head color seems to change slightly from day to day. One klemmeri showed a blue color to it's head as a juvenile and now it shows a green color. As Joe will tell you we thought the blue headed klemmeri was to be something incredibly special. Maybe next time the genetics will play in our favor- Has anybody else experienced head color variations? Baker

 

[Phelsumaker]

examples

this is a photo of an adult female and her head shows hues of green on occasion- I suppose it is slight but hope the comparison better demonstrates-

the second picture is a young adult male that would show reds on occasion
-both pictures are not the best - these are just some old pictures - I am going to try to get some more that show the colors a little better

 

[Phelsumaker]

correction both pictures are of the same young adult male

after further comparison- I have decided that both pictures are in fact the same animal- if you look at the tail just behind the left leg on both pictures you will see a bite mark that is exactly the same- So this makes the the subject more interesting this same male on occasion shows very bright blues and the yellow gets so bright it appears to reduce the amount black dots on the forehead-I must say the more I learn the more that I don't understand -Baker

 

[JBReptiles]

Or could it be the camera playing tricks with us?

 

[Phelsumaker]

I have considred that

I was thinking that but I can tell you with no doubt in my mind that you can see the color variations with your naked eye- Joe reports he has seen slight hues of orange on klemmeri heads and we both agree at least on female "Sasquatch" held a green pattern on her head through her adult life. I never really considred that the same klemmeri might be showing both green and red but I definately want to find out now. I agree that the camera can often play tricks on the eyes - This weekend I am going to keep a very close eye on this male in particular that is currently in a tank by himself- hopefully by next week I will have some better examples of this- all of these pictures are taken under the same lights but the tank was different in both pictures-I am going to limit the variations and see if I can duplicate the results- Isn't the scientific method great! I'm no expert but one things stands true- The klemmeri continue to amaze!Baker