C variegatus ssp locations

[Nicke]

Hi everybody,

being new to this forum but not to the hobby I thought I would ask some of you guys from the US about the distribution of the different subspecies of C variegatus.

I bought some animals a few months ago as C variegatus variegatus but I wasn´t told the exact locale where their parents were caught until today. As far as I have come to know the parents are supposed to have been caught around "Bay of LA" which really doesn´t mean much to me being unfamiliar with the details of US geography.

My question is if you think it´s really variegatus variegatus or if it could be another subspecies. I have checked the distribution map in this forum, but as I said it really doesnt give me the answer I want.

I will try to take some pictures and post them for a better possibility of a good identification.

 

[Psycoreptile]

Try Geckoweb.org. They have an awesome field guide to US geckos. As far as "Bay of LA", you might as well say bordering the Pacific Ocean. It is not a specific locale as much as it is an area. Hope this helps some.

 

[Coleonyx]

The Bay of LA is in Baja, Mexico. A picture would help identification.

 

[Brian]

Nothing should be coming out of Mexico.

 

[Nicke]

Thanks for the answers

I tried to post pictures before but were not allowed to post URL:s due to my very recent joining and lack of postings. Understandable but at the moment a little annoying.

I will post pictures in my next post.

 

[Nicke]

Pictures

Testing again. The animals are subadults so I don´t expect them to breed until next spring.

and both of them:

 

[Coleonyx]

Nothing should be coming out of Mexico.

Nothing (legal) is coming out right now, but there is cb Coleonyx available from a few Mexican localities, but only in Europe. I know there are abbotti available from Baja.




Your animals look like Coleonyx variegatus abbotti, and if they are from the Bay of LA, then they are definatley abbotti.

Best of luck with them.

 

[alecfeldman]

abbotti

Those are definately Mexican C.V. Abbotti

 

[Nicke]

Thanks a lot to all of you.

It seems like my suspicions were correct.

I don´t think I would have treated my animals differently if they had been C variegatus variegatus but I prefer to know exactly what animal I´m working with.

 

[Brian]

I thought a lot of that baja stuff was basically smuggled although it may have happened decades ago.

 

[Nicke]

The parents of my animals have been brought to Sweden one or two years ago. If they have been smuggled it´s unfortunate because I dont like the idea of having illegally aquired animals.

However it doesnt change the fact that they are here now and I think that all I can do right now is to provide an as good as possible home for them.

All I know is that there are at least one more group of animals descending from the original WC animals plus the WC:s here.

 

[Nicke]

Update

Yesterday I got confirmed that the original animals were actually smuggled out of Mexico meaning my animals most likely are C variegatus abbotti. They have started to laying eggs so hopefully I will soon have a number of future breeding groups.

I have also been promised to get information on the exakt locale were the original animals were caught and not just "Bay of LA".

Are there any differences in how to incubate abbotti eggs compared to eggs of other variegatus subspecies? Hatching times etc?

 

[Coleonyx]

There really is no difference in incubation. Good luck! They look really nice.

 

[Nicke]

OK. Thanks.

I think they are looking very beautiful, but they also have the funniest personalities among my geckos. I can just sit and watch them as they are scurrying around looking for prey while they are waving their tails.