Tarentola gigas sexing DUW!

[Reptiluvr]

Here are pics of my T. gigas. I can't accurately sex them by looking for the usual bulge. I have heard different theories on how to sex them but I'm hoping someone with experience can give me more positive answers. The juveniles are each around 9 months old.

suspected girl #1

suspected girl #1

suspected male

suspected male

suspected girl #2

suspected girl #2

juvenile #1

juvenile #2
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[Bonehead]

Looks correct to me!

Paul

 

[Geitje]

I think you've got it all mixed up. The photos are good enough to sex all of them. The sexes from top to bottom - male, male, female, female, male, male, male, and last male. The clue? Males have 2 postanal tubercles; females have a single one.

Use that clue from now on and you'll never go wrong.

Jon

 

[Bonehead]

Jon,

Both of the males I have in the breeding pairs have two postanal tubercles. The females have this as well, but the males, or what I think are males, have slight buldges and the yellow coloration above the vent. This is one thing about Tarentola that drives me nuts!

Paul

 

[Reptiluvr]

Anyone else have input? There seems to be a lot of discrepancy.

 

[Smith710]

Ok, I don't understand totally what you are saying about the buldge... Are you saying Gigas don't have the buldge, or are you saying they are too young for the buldge, or what? I only have 1 male at the moment and obviously haven't seen many of these guys, but my male definately seems to have a buldge.. It's not huge, but it's definately noticable. My females have nothing at all, but the male definately seems to have the buldge. But it would be quite hard to believe that all those that you have are females... I dunno....

 

[Reptiluvr]

The one I suspect male, but was labeled female by Jon doesn't have a bulge so to say but has a "pocket" I would call it. There is a larger postanal section before the tail starts to go into segmentation. There's no bulge but there's definitely a bigger section here.

 

[Bonehead]

Hey Robert,

Just as a quick question, what are the weights of your animals? Also, how warm are you keeping them?

Paul

 

[Reptiluvr]

I don't know their weights offhand. I can borrow a gram scale but how would you get the to stay still? They're at about 33-35C during the day with a nighttime drop to 26-28C.

 

[Smith710]

Lol, if you're going to weigh these crazy things, your best bet is to weigh them in a deli cup and just subtract the weight of the deli cup before or afterwards. I don't know how you got them to stay still for those outdoor shots you took. Mine would have been long gone.

 

[Bonehead]

Yeah, I had to put them in a cup to wiegh them. A few of them will sit long enough to get a good count, but that's only two of them!

Paul

 

[chuckpowell]

I have to agree with Paul on this one. I've had a T. gigas with one spur on one side and two on the other - what would that make it? I've also had one with two spurs on each side lay eggs.

Best,

Chuck

 

[Reptiluvr]

So chuck do you think I have 1.4 then? or 4.1?

 

[chuckpowell]

I'd say 1.1.2 and I'm leaning towards 1.1 for the juveniles, but that is nothing but a very big guess.

Best,

Chuck

 

[Reptiluvr]

You seem to be missing one adult chuck. I have 5 total. They were sold to me as 1.2.2 Could you let me know which you think are males or females? Paul I'd appreciate your input as well.

 

[Smith710]

Here's an older pic of my male... The angle kind of sucks for what I'm trying to show, but even at this angle you can see the buldge... I will try and get a better picture more from the side, btu the way I have the cage set up, when they want to hide, It's a little difficult to get them out, and my male is a bit shy. I don't think the spurs have anything to do with it, I remember all 3 of mine having different numbers of spurs. This is the best picture I got for the buldge... It's definately there though, and very noticable.

 

[Bonehead]

I really wish I could be of help on this one. My animals are like what Matt was taling about. There is a visual difference in all the animals I have. I don't know how well the pictures I sent to you showed it, but it is there. Your animals are not as easy to tell. They should be able to be visually sexed without a problem, based on age and the temps you're keeping them at. The only reason I bring up temps is because some of my larger Pachydactylus species were the same way until I heated them and they began to show. Four of the six Tarentola species I keep are easy to tell, but two, gigas being one, is not easy to figure out.

Paul

 

[Smith710]

I think you've got it all mixed up. The photos are good enough to sex all of them. The sexes from top to bottom - male, male, female, female, male, male, male, and last male. The clue? Males have 2 postanal tubercles; females have a single one.

Use that clue from now on and you'll never go wrong.

Jon

Completely untrue... I have an adult pair and 5 juvies at the moment, I did have another adult female though. All three of my adults had/have 2 on each side. I've looked for everything I could since I've gotten them to see what males and female differences are, I see no pores or any yellow coloration on any of my adults. The only thing that I have ever been able to tell the difference between males and females is the small bulge on the males. It's not huge, but my females were/are completely flat, the male has a small buldge. I haven't been on these forums in a while, but I figured I'd bump this up to see if anybody else has came up with a differnt way to sex them.