Are n.amyae temperature sex determined?

luc

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Are n.amyae temperature sex determined? I just read they are not. Is this true? There was someone at the last Hamm show who was selling babys incubated at 24°C as being 100% females. The person I bought 2 unsexed babys from also told me he incubated at 25,5 °C and had more females.
 

Stickytoe

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I don't think TSD has been proven in this species, but lets just say I've had some interesting results from the past 5 years. Last year I produced all females.
I am still compiling data, and I need to do some statistical analysis on my data. It will be interesting to see what the results are!

I did a similar study with my Rhacodactylus auriculatus.

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Nicole Chaney
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Stickytoe

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Hi All-

sorry I went campin for the weekend ;-)

I just want to clarify here that I am NOT claiming that amyae are TSD. In fact that is why I am waiting for statistical analysis on my data. Even then, more data will be needed to make a viable argument one way or the other.

The fact is I DID produce all females in the '06 breeding season. Time will tell if these results are reproduceable or if it was all just incredible odds.
I am growing up some '07 hatchlings now to get sexing confirmation.

There are so many variables to be considered. Is it genetic? is it temperature throughout incubation? Is it temp in the first couple weeks of incubation? Is it temperature fluctuations?

Lots of work to be done!

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oli

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So, what you're saying is that you won't tell us til you've come up with some concrete information?? Is that it? We're all not taking this as fact here, we'd just like to maybe deny or concurr with the information you'd like to present us. Heck if it's temp. fluctuations I'll be the man and prolly hatch out 100% females, but seriously people here know their shit and may have had similar experiences, yadadadada... You just start the compelling argument that you hatched all females this year, but failed to mention your current "hypothesis" or how many females "all your females" was indeed. I think that would be some interesting information Nicole. :)
 

Stickytoe

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true. and with reason.

I am not going to post specific data here until I have a solid and publishable paper both with auriculatus and amyae. I also have a paper in the works on Dicamptodon ensatus (Pacific giant salamander) from data collected 3 years ago. It is a LONG process, and the more data collected over many years, then all the more valid the paper will be.

Plagiarism and data-stealing is quite easy on the 'net, hence my reluctance to talk specifics right now.

I replied to this thread to point out that I have noticed trends in my collection. I think its important for people to think for themselves and not just reply "well they are genetically sex determined because so and so told me." I encourage people to do their own research as well.

It may all turn out in the end that indeed they are genetically sex determined, but only hard science with reproduceable results will tell us what is really going on.
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