grandis morph

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kcgeckoguy

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just thought I would post some pics of this crazy new grandis morph.
blue2.jpg

here is a normal to compare to.
normalgrandis.jpg

bluegrandis1.jpg
 
kcgeckoguy

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Its proven. I have produced males and females that are solid blue. I am working with several bloodlines that have the "blue" trait. I have let a few hets go, but I will soon be able to offer some that are solid blue.
 
BlakeDeffenbaugh

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Awesome. I'm surprised that there isnt more morphs out there in the Phelsuma world with so many people working with them. Really surprised albinism hasnt popped up more than it has. Good luck with them man those are pretty cool
 
gekkie

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I have heard that the are also some albino klemmeri in Germany.... but i have never seen them!

Regards Peter.
 
BlakeDeffenbaugh

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There has been albino laticauda produced but I'm not sure what has happened to them. Heres a link on gekkota.com
P. laticauda
Hes all the way on the bottom. I've talked to a breed that I think still has a albino specimen but once again, I'm not sure whats really going on with the animals.
 
kcgeckoguy

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The grandis pictured is the 2nd generation. The first blues were from two pairs I had going and weren't nearly as blue as the one in the pic. I bred the nicest blue to the nicest blue and then to a male I stumbled upon at a show. That produced totaly patternless blue grandis.

It is strange not to see any albino grandis, but it dosen't suprize me. Most Phelsuma people try to keep from inbreeding as much as possible. An albino would be a cool looking gecko.

Thanks for looking everyone!
 
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Still taking credit for something you didn't create eh?How bout being a little more honest there pal.Just about everyone in the world that knows this morph knows I am responsible.Quite funny really,quite pathetic.Good luck on your con or are you just delusional.People are always trying to bait me on these forums that's why I don't post here.You are really shameless.Always vicariously living in someone elses shadow .Too bad your momma didn't hold you more when you were a baby.
 
baugh

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jay how many generations have you produced?

i am glad there is not a albino phelsuma line out there. if there was every body and there brother would try to produce them.
 
kcgeckoguy

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Jay or should we call you by your real name? Why is it that you think Im taking credit for anything. Just because I didn't go right out and say I got 2 blue bloodlines from you and another from another person? Maybe you should stop being so sensitive about things, pal. The truth is, I have seen LOTS of blue grandis that don't have ANY connection to you. Just the other day there were WILD CAUGHT blue grandis for sale on kingsnake from florida. And then to publicly insult me on the forum is very mature dude. Besides, don't you have anything better to do than look at forums all day long?
 
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Well Terry ,Jay Sommers is my real name.I remember vividly you writing me checks and me going to your bank to cash them with that very name on the front.O.K. my first name is Paul,so what.I have never been called that.What is your point?Yes you might have gotten blue animals.I sold you plenty of het.animals,before I understood the genetics.Do you think it is mere coincidence you picked up these animals in the K.C. area and none are in Oh, I don't know Alaska or Idaho,North Carolina?Yes there was a blue grandis "wild caught" in Florida.I don't have the time to give you a lesson in genetics but there is a distinct difference in an environmental anomaly and a true genetic strain.That animal looked nothing like my form.

Also for someone who's credibility is so damaged you should use caution casting dispersions at others.I actually do have better things to do than waste my time here.I was alerted to your petty thread, by my dear friend Jon"geitje"Boone on this very forum,coincidentally the moment that someone posted het's of mine they received in trade on Kingsnake.

So KCGECKOGUY =real name TERRY GWIN.Stop using this forum to harass me with your sinister shenanigans. It is your M.O. to harass people isn't it?
I will refer everyone to this thread about you and how you actually took time out of your precious life to assume someone else's identity and open gay personal adds in their name with their e-mail address.And you think I am immature?
Here is a link to the 28 page thread.Pay special attention to page 24.Very enlightening.You are caught here red handed with your I.P. address.You can't deny it.

You lost your lawsuit...let it go.You have no credibility.

Hey,come on by the house tonight and maybe we can work something out.

Page 28
Terry Gwin bad business reptile breeder (killer) - <FONT COLOR=RED>Board of Inquiry®</FONT>
Whole thread,if anyone has the damn time to read ALL 28 pages!
Terry Gwin bad business reptile breeder (killer) - <FONT COLOR=RED>Board of Inquiry®</FONT>

This is the last time I will respond.I have better things to do than argue with a liar like I am in Highschool all over again.Already taken up too much time from my gecko collection.
 
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jpstodwftexas

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Interesting how Animals lovers fight on these forums.
I personally did not take it that kcgeckoguy was claiming to the creator of the morph.
Kc stated that particular gecko was a second generation from two blues he already had. Although not as vivid. And One he stumbled upon at a show, hence how could he have created the "Morph"

Jaysommers your geckos don't look like the one originally posted.


I personally wish true animal lovers would stop trying to genetically trying to produce the next great fad and leave nature alone.
Its a shame what people do to make alot of money
 
BlakeDeffenbaugh

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Why is it wrong for Jay to want credit for something he started? I for one would want credit and if someone else tried to take that credit way I would be pissed too. It does not matter if they dont "look" alike, the blue can differ from animal to animal. . not everyone is going to be the same blue. "Morphs" are naturally occurring so whats the problem with reproducing them in captivity? If the genetics do not show harmful traits then there is no reason not to try and reproduce them.
 
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jpstodwftexas

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BlakeDeffenbaugh said:
Why is it wrong for Jay to want credit for something he started? I for one would want credit and if someone else tried to take that credit way I would be pissed too. It does not matter if they dont "look" alike, the blue can differ from animal to animal. . not everyone is going to be the same blue. "Morphs" are naturally occurring so whats the problem with reproducing them in captivity? If the genetics do not show harmful traits then there is no reason not to try and reproduce them.
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If As you stated, "morphs" are naturally occurring, so how could someone then claim to have started something. Either the occur naturally or they don't
It doesn't matter who was the first to start selling them or who has been most sucessful in isolating breeding pairs who will produce the optimum number of "x" Morphs

I certainly did not take from the post that KC was saying " Hey Everyone I and I alone created this "morph" which has never been seen, or available for sale and only avaible from me, The creator of this "Morph". The Only person I seeing claiming to have created the "morph" is jay.

I look on these forums to see the animals and set-ups, not hear people brag about breeding specific traits. When I buy an animals its because it appeals to me not because its the "in" variety..or because I can brag because its expensive and hard to find..wow look at me I am better than you because I have more money
 
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