This topic is because of a link in the Day Gecko forum. If a customer buys whatever amount of geckos from a breeeder and some arrive dead who's responsibility is it to replace them. Obviously the DOA is because of carrier error, I certainly don't think someone would send a dead gecko. Is it the seller who should send a refund or the buyer takes the risk of possibly losing a great deal of money. I will explain the exact situation I am in. My cousin and I ordered 5000 dollars worth of geckos two years ago. 17 of the 21 geckos arrived dead. It was without doubt the shipping companies fault as temperatures dropped far to low and because there was a max/min thermometer in the package this was easily proved. Because the package was not insured the shipping company( Lufthansa cargo for those who are interested) is only liable for a certain amount based on the weight of the package. It worked out that I was credited 56.06. Combined, me and my cousin are out around 4000 dollars. Is it not up to the seller to insure an order of this magnitude? There was no mention that the seller was not responsible for carrier error, which some people make very clear during a transaction. I will not mention the sellers name because we are still trying to work out the issue. He is stuggling with the shipping company but according to international shipping laws the most that they are liable for is 56.06. So when he finally reaches the conclusion that Lufthasnsa will not reimburse him for the losses am I out 4000 dollars or should he replace the geckos. I am planning on getting other geckos from him, other than the ones that arrived dead in the other order and am more than wiiling to pay for the shipping costs. In other words I am not asking him to refund the 1000 dollars it cost to ship the geckos, just the geckos themselves. He can send the replacment geckos with the other ones I ordered and I will pay the 1000 dollar shipping cost again. I am interested in everyones opinion on this matter so please feel free to coment.