leachianus pics

[reptivet]

These 2 geckos are male 5 and half, female almost 6 years old. They eat only leachianus diet with some baby fruit or banana in it. They were left to me, from a person that was used to buy pure locals, I did not buy them directly. I am not sure of the locals or the breeders. I think the male was bred in Czech republic and the female in Germany. Anyone have a ideas of the local? The female head has been heavily bitten by the male(antibiotic powder on the head) and in the fight the mail has lost most of the tail, that is regenerating well. I am thinking to find them a different mate or to sell the male (if anybody interested) and find another mate to the female.
Ideally I would like to pair them with very similar / same local geckos. The female has very reduced, almost missing white speckling, but some days she is quite light coloured, almost yellowish. The male is always very dark olive or blackish, never light coloured, but has always spotting, very fine and diffused. They definitely can not stay together so they are now spearated. Any ideas of how to find mates or where they could originated would be very useful . Thanks,

Gabriele

 

[luc]

It's not possble to tell the local of a leachianus by looking you need to know who produced them and where they got their animals, the female looks pure GT but could be from several locals, male does look different, could be a henkeli x gt mix or also a pure GT. What's their weight ?

 

[crestedgecko123]

nice leachie

 

[Graham_s]

I don't doubt that you're doing everything fine, its just them not getting on, but are they all a similar weight/size?

Not sure about the locale of them. looks like they are henkeli - just a really nice dark patterned henkeli - but the one with reduced patterning, looks like it could be henkeli but just different patterning, or "Rhacodactylus cf. leachianus (Mt. Koghis)" (going by Patrick Schonecker's website cPanel®)
Might be worth asking him, I am sure he will be able to help.

 

[reptivet]

Re:

First of all thanks to Luc and Grahm for their replies.
Now it apppears certain that the female(I correct the date of birth she is 4 and half and the male is 4)is from M. Troeger(R.I. P.)so she is a leachianus leachianus Mt Koghis (a type A dark) . In any case she has nothing of henkeli(flat long head, small scales on the head and lips, big size, very long tail very plain colours and pattern). The weight of the feamale is 211g, without looking fat at all, the male, that appears a bit skinny to me thst I have experience of henkeli breeding is 168 grams (pretty big for a 4 years henkeli. By theway I am not sure of what local is the male and like Grahm says it may well be a quite big henkeli with very dark colours, a type B leachianus, or an hybrid. Interesting the pupil of the male , slightly oblique, more tipical of some local henkeli. In any case the male is in very good health and it is avaliable to go to a new home. If somebody wants it, I can bring it to hamm, day after tomorrow. If somebody is interested in buying it at this Hamm, please PM me tonight.

 

[Graham_s]

First of all thanks to Luc and Grahm for their replies.
Now it apppears certain that the female(I correct the date of birth she is 4 and half and the male is 4)is from M. Troeger(R.I. P.)so she is a leachianus leachianus Mt Koghis (a type A dark) . In any case she has nothing of henkeli(flat long head, small scales on the head and lips, big size, very long tail very plain colours and pattern). The weight of the feamale is 211g, without looking fat at all, the male, that appears a bit skinny to me thst I have experience of henkeli breeding is 168 grams (pretty big for a 4 years henkeli. By theway I am not sure of what local is the male and like Grahm says it may well be a quite big henkeli with very dark colours, a type B leachianus, or an hybrid. Interesting the pupil of the male , slightly oblique, more tipical of some local henkeli. In any case the male is in very good health and it is avaliable to go to a new home. If somebody wants it, I can bring it to hamm, day after tomorrow. If somebody is interested in buying it at this Hamm, please PM me tonight.

It is an interesting one, isn't it? I hope you manage to solve your problems though. I would like to get into leachies, but haven't the time, money or space for them at the moment unfortunately.
You'll have to be careful if you sell it and don't have a table though (at hamm) because apparently its crawling with security and you can get banned from the show. not having a go, just letting you know incase you don't already.
Good luck, and I really do like your leachies!!

 

[Tim]

Are you sure the female is from the Troeger line? 211g for a 4 and half years old dark morph female sounds not very much for me.

 

[reptivet]

Re:leachies

I have been told by more than one person that they were dark morphs from Troeger, anyway this gecko has not been bought by me, I cured it from severe Uv burinings when it was small. It has never eaten an awful lot and it has been very skinny until about 2 yearsv of age. I did not payed a penny for it and I have not been keeping it long, by the way I am sure it is the same geckos from a group of 4 babies Mt Koghis that I was brought years ago to cure for Uv burnings. Still she has a scar from it on the neck. The other, the male is of more difficult identification even for me that I have seen quite a good number of leachianus now, for at least 7 years. This is why I posted the thread( I am a vet , not a gecko expert). In any case I have bred henkelis and at 4 years they are not so big. I can also say that she has a very long tail. She has never been keen on mice and insects and being a rescue I did not espect all the growt she has done in the last year or so.
Instead this male has always eaten well, as I know, but it is not very big at all for a leachianus leachianus, at least for a Type A, so the mystery of what it could be remains. ;-) also cause it is pretty long and skinny to be an henkeli. Anybody else has ideas? How much a 4 -4 and half years Mt Koghis female can weight?
Are there superexperts around?
Does anybody have a female Mt Koghis same age for comparison to post the pic of? Does anybody have a leachie that looks pretty similar to this male?

 

[Graham_s]

I have been told by more than one person that they were dark morphs from Troeger, anyway this gecko has not been bought by me, I cured it from severe Uv burinings when it was small. It has never eaten an awful lot and it has been very skinny until about 2 yearsv of age. I did not payed a penny for it and I have not been keeping it long, by the way I am sure it is the same geckos from a group of 4 babies Mt Koghis that I was brought years ago to cure for Uv burnings. Still she has a scar from it on the neck. The other, the male is of more difficult identification even for me that I have seen quite a good number of leachianus now, for at least 7 years. This is why I posted the thread( I am a vet , not a gecko expert). In any case I have bred henkelis and at 4 years they are not so big. I can also say that she has a very long tail. She has never been keen on mice and insects and being a rescue I did not espect all the growt she has done in the last year or so.
Instead this male has always eaten well, as I know, but it is not very big at all for a leachianus leachianus, at least for a Type A, so the mystery of what it could be remains. ;-) also cause it is pretty long and skinny to be an henkeli. Anybody else has ideas? How much a 4 -4 and half years Mt Koghis female can weight?
Are there superexperts around?
Does anybody have a female Mt Koghis same age for comparison to post the pic of? Does anybody have a leachie that looks pretty similar to this male?

It might be worth sending an email to Allen Repashy on pangeareptiles.com I am sure he will be able to help you with anything concerning Rhacs

 

[luc]

Allen will tell you the same thing as I did(no local indentification without background info). On the other hand owning some animals from troegers bloodline I can tell you there is a lot of diffrence between the animals and I do realy think she might indeed be a mnt koghis female. You can't tell she ain't a GT because here weight isn't that high since weight can depend on a lot of different factors. Anyway I own several henkeli females from 5 years old and all are below 200 grams, typical weight being between 150 and 180 grams. My mnt koghis females from troegers bloodline are around 130 grams but they are only 2 years old my older males (they are 5 years) are around 280 grams.