sarasins can be longer than chahoua, but not nearly as big over all. my female sara is probably over 10" right now and she's only 2 years old. my male is 2 1/2 years old and if it wasn't for his regenerated tail I'd guess him at 10.5". sarasinorum don't really hit full size until about 3-5 years old, so mine will get bigger. I saw one that Repashy had that was about 12", a real monster.