White line gecko (g. vittatus) behavioral questions

kaiya

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Hello everyone, I have had my male white line gecko for about 6 weeks now, and I am concerned with the amount of time he is spending on the ground in his log hideout, as well as his eating habits and over all active level change since I got him.

Some background info: Kaiya (named after the baby princess from the movie Willow, needless to say we thought he was a girl at first :shock: ) is a Captive Bred, is about 6-7 inches long, and when we got him from PetSmart they told us he was probably around a year and a half old. He does not seem to be the type of White Line that will lose his coloration, his lines and tail are still vibrant white, and I have heard him chirp only once. He has recently moved into a new enclosure, but he first moved into an all glass, 10 gallon long tank which I equipped with as much climbing as I could fit into the small space but mainly located on the cool side (I was afraid of him burning himself by getting too close to the heat lamp), lots of fake leaves for coverage and sitting on, a log for hiding (and apparently pooping on), and a small waterfall at one point, not to mention the water dish and extra food dish every once in a while for when I tried to give him wax worms and baby food. I misted the cage between 3 - 4 times a day, but the humidity stayed mainly between 50 and 80, with a goal of keeping it right around 75. The cage's cool side ranges from 76 - 83 degrees F during the day and the hot side stays no higher than 87 degrees F. PetSmart told us they had been feeding him 5 large crickets every two days, so I tried to keep up with that feeding schedule. However, he did not eat for the first two weeks in his new cage, hence me trying to give him a couple wax worms, about four different types of banana based baby foods, honey, my boyfriend even tried giving her a moth from our porch but I was too concerned about it having pesticides on it so I secretly let it escape the next time I misted the cage :coverlaugh: . Anyway, he ate two wax worms, none of the baby food, wouldn't even lick at the honey, and although I tried feeding him the five crickets every other day, dusting them with a calcium/vitamin powder once a week, he seems to be eating only about one to two crickets a day, if he eats any at all. This concerns me, but considering the facts that he is at least eating SOMETHING, he has shed once since I've had him, and his log is covered in poop, I have had to convince myself that he is okay when it comes to his appetite.

The thing that really concerns me, is the fact that white lines are arboreal geckos, yet Kaiya seems to spend morning, noon, and night in or on top of his log, except for some mornings when I would find him hanging out on the sides of the glass on the warm side of his old cage underneath the heat lamp. I thought this might be due to the fact that his previous enclosure was only 12 inches tall, so I wasn't going to freak out about it, but I moved him into his new enclosure three days ago (an exo-terra 12x12x24 with three live plants: a small pink polka dot plant, a jade, and a dracaena, and about two inches of hydroton balls at the bottom, mesh, and then coco fiber substrate, fake leaves/vines at the top, fakes bio-vines, and three "logs" from outside which I baked in the oven at 325 degrees F for an hour and a half each, and with a little adjusting of the lights, the temperatures have remained the same, yet the humidity is hovering between 60 and 70 percent). For the first half of the day in his new enclosure, he clung to the very top of the foam rock background behind his leaves or on top of them, yet he has once again resigned to his trusty log. Is this normal for an arboreal species? Should I be concerned or am I blowing things out of proportion? Should I be concerned about his eating? Should I look into other feeders besides crickets (I was going to get mealworms when I picked up the wax worms but the people at PetSmart told me they would be too aggressive for Kaiya)?

When he was in his Petsmart five gallon tank he was responsive and unafraid of me, as I stood by the glass he followed me around with his eyes and seemed inquisitive, and was apparently eating 5 crickets every other day (I spoke directly with the person in charge of feeding to make sure this was true)!! Yet ever since I brought him home he seems DEATHLY afraid of me (I do not try to handle him at all, yet every time anyone walks into the room and he happens to ACTUALLY be out and about, he scurries away to his log), he's not interested in food, and spends most all of his time hiding in his log...
 

Sk3d

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Hey!

A few things here. What is the relative humidity of the tank? If the humidity of the tank is very low at the top he may be staying low to the ground where the humidity is higher. Second, his skittish behavior is due to G. Vittatus' nature. Kaiya is doing what comes naturally to him. It also may be due to the several moves he has just made from tank to tank. This puts a lot of stress on the little guy. Give him a while to adjust to his new digs and he'll come around.

As far as his dit is concerned, stop feeding him a constant staple of waxworms. They're just to fatty for a gecko to survive on alone. You can feed hm crickets if he seems interested in them, but if he's used to beetle larvae a more suitable switch wold be to mealworms (no matter what those jackasses over at petsmart told you!) a 6/7 inch skunk gecko will handle normal sized meal worms with no problem. The honey and baby food are a good thing to put in there in small doses, but not all skunks will eat alot of it, if any at all. Still a good thing to let him have his own choice.

If you find that the humidity is fine (should be between 65-75%), or you fix this problem (there are several suggestions on how to do this around this forum so read around) and after a few weeks his behavior doesn't change, or you are truly concerned, take that log to a vet that will do small reptiles and have him/her do a fecal. Some things to keep in mind is that Petsmart isn't the most reliable source of information on reptiles and because of this, kaiya may not be CB or even a year and a haf old. 6/7 inches does seem a little small for a full grown G. Vitattus.

Best of luck,
Sked

PS Post some pics please!
 

kaiya

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Thank you so much for you quick response!! In regards to some of your questions, the humidity level seems to be hovering between 60-70% without me having to mist it, yet I mist it one to two times a day until the percentage reaches the high 70's. I was actually considering putting some of the wet Fluker's moss I have on the bottom of his cage into some of the bends of the branches as a way to take some of the humidity to the top of the tank. Does that sounds like a good idea, or could he possibly hurt himself by slipping on it while climbing around and falling?

As for his diet, he has only eaten two waxworms, I offer him the baby food and waxmorms once a week and he never once was interested expect for that week, and after he ate them on that occasion I didn't offer them again until right before his move in the hopes of fattening him up a little before his move to his bigger cage, since I knew he would go through the phase of not eating again from the stress of moving. :sad:

I would be glad to post some pictures! Lets just hope I can figure out how!

here is kaiya (I had just misted the cage in the first two):
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and... if this is working... here is a shot of his new home:

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Matt K

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My opinions:

You are WAY overdoing it. Don't be obsessive abouit the details that you heard about from a Pet-not-so-Smart. Forone, "aboreal" is used a little loosely. They dont dig into the ground, but thats about it. Example:
I kept a pair for years in a 30 gallon tank with a screen top, about 2 inches of normally dry potting soil on the bottom with some dead leaves and a Pothos ivy in a 6 inch pot in one corner of the tank. 2 pieces of pretty heavy tree branche pieces were propped up to one side of the tank. On top of the tank I had a light strup with a UVB bulb in it and a 60watt bulb in a clamp on light fixture shining in one end. Every once in a while I would drop in a couple dozen crickets or roaches that would disappear, and every other day I spritzed water in the tank. There was also a cat food can fill of clean water sitting in there.
Sometimes they were resting on a branch. Most of the time at least one of them was stuck to the glass near the ground or on the ground, while the other was stuck to the glass or sitting in the plant. Eggs appeared semi-regularly throughout the year and they were a little on the fat side. They did well, ate well, reproduced, and were in my opinion a little neglected. I really did not pay as much attention to them as I did other reptiles. I kept a pair of Tokay geckos the same way with the same results.

So my 2 cents- dont pay so much attention to so many details. Watch him and see what he does, and adjust what you do accordingly. If you just got him leave him alone (more or less) for a couple or three weeks for him to get used to the new surroundings and what goes on in the room the cage is in. If he is happy his colors will show it, and vice versa. They are normally a little skittish or sit in weird places.

Also- thanks for posting! I was in a car wreck years ago that blocked some of my memories.... and I had forgotten about the herps I had just before that and now it all comes back to me! :D
 

kaiya

New member
Hahahaha, you're very welcome for the post - I'm glad someone gets to benefit from my over-doing it! Thank you for your reply, I know I worry too much. I've just always, always, ALWAYS wanted a gecko and this is my first chance at it... I don't want to mess up. Everyone on this site knows so much about geckos, I honestly just wanted someone else's opinion other then a PetSmart employee. :)
 

Matt K

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Agreed- I like that you played with the vines- and might try that in one of my terrariums. After some other purchases are paid off maybe I'll get some G.vitattus too again. They are really neat-o.
 
age?

how old is your gecko? I have a male that is supposidly about a year old but he just looks so much smaller than other males ive seen. he could just be small but im not convinced hes that old
 
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