Mixing frogs and flying geckos

[taelynne]

My boyfriend and I have a fairly large tomato frog and whites tree frog that is the same size. They are kept in the same tank, they get along extremely well. The both have the places they like to stay and dont get in eachothers way and we havent had any problems.

We recently bought a flying gecko that is about 6 inches long, and is about the same size as the frogs. We also got a larger tank.

I was wondering if it is a bad idea to put them all together in a large tank?
My boyfriend thinks we should try it and keep an eye on them, Im worried they wont do well together.

Any thoughts?

 

[mh728]

Generally, mixed species tanks are looked down upon unless you have extensive experience in all included species first. I won't tell you what to do with your frogs since I don't know much about them but I wouldn't just toss a gecko in there.

 

[taelynne]

That's what I'm worried about. I don't know anything about geckos, but I have had experience with frogs. My boyfriend worked at a pet store for years and has owned 5 geckos and plenty of frogs. I am just unsure of the safety of the frogs or geckos, and I'm worried that one second they will look fine then the next second they are trying to eat eachother or something. I am home all day for the next few weeks to monitor, but I don't know what would happen when they are alone. The lady at the pet store said if they are all the same size we can try to put them together, just keep a close eye on them, but she doesn't recommend it. Also tomato frogs are considered poisonous and I dont know how that will affect the gecko. The temperature ranges and stuff are about the same so I'm not too worried about that.
I just don't want them attempting to eat eachother, I dont think they actually could because they are all about the same size, but I don't want to have to break up fights or chance any of them getting hurt.

 

[mh728]

The way I see it, people should only keep as many animals as they have individual caging for. Aside from breeding, I don't even house animals of the same species together. While this may be overkill I care about the individual animals health more than anything else.

Maybe someone who actually has a good reason not to do this will chime in???

 

[Sinosauropteryx]

Introducing a flying gecko

As inexperienced as I am with all three of the animals you listed, I still would not recommend it. If, as you say, that tomato frog is toxic, all you need is for some animal to get into a short squabble with it for there to be a problem. And if your gecko is male, it will probably want to keep other animals out of its territory. I am not sure if this works across species with flying geckos but I personally wouldn't take any chances.

 

[Jester]

If you aren't 100% sure of yourself why stress stress yourself/possibly your animals just for a slightly cooler looking tank. Not worth it in my book.

Secondly possibly poisons is a red flag to me. Do what you will but I would definitely recommend against it.

 

[Palor]

The Whites may also eat your gecko.

 

[taelynne]

As inexperienced as I am with all three of the animals you listed, I still would not recommend it. If, as you say, that tomato frog is toxic, all you need is for some animal to get into a short squabble with it for there to be a problem. And if your gecko is male, it will probably want to keep other animals out of its territory. I am not sure if this works across species with flying geckos but I personally wouldn't take any chances.

I guess that tomato frogs if they are raised in pet store are not toxic they become toxic in the wild based on the food they eat, at least that is what I was told by a pet store and I looked it up.

I am not 100% sure whether or not my tomato frog was raised in a pet store or if they captured it from the wild.

I'm pretty sure my gecko is a female, google wasn't very helpful in giving me tips to figure out the sex of my gecko but with all the tips I found it pointed to it being a female.

Thank you for your imput though, I really do appreciate it!

 

[taelynne]

The Whites may also eat your gecko.

I don't think he could actually eat the gecko. They are the same size.
I mean my frog has more mass because he is kinda fat, but he definitely couldnt get the gecko in his mouth in my opinion.

At first I was really worried about that, but the more I looked at them both the more I saw that I doubt it was even possible.

I just don't want the gecko trying to bite him or anything..

 

[taelynne]

Update.

So sunday morning my boyfriend fed all the pets and put the Whites Tree Frog in the tank with the Flying Gecko since we were both home all day and could keep and extremely close eye on them. We haven't added the tomato frog yet, and I'm not sure if we will.

The frog climbed up and slept on the side of the tank he turned a dark green like he normally does when I hold him or he gets a little nervous. The gecko stared at him from across the tank for a couple hours then climbed up and slept about 6 inches away from him on the side of the tank. When I checked on them my frog was a light green-ish blue like usual. He seemed happy and found a nice place on some leaves to hang out.

They seem to be getting along quite well. I haven't seen any problems. They are both minding their own space. The each have the place they like to be. The frog is staying on the cooler/less humid side of the tank and the gecko is staying on the hot/more humid side, like normal.

Since I am out of college for the summer I am home to keep an eye on them.
I am still worried, but so far so good.

My boyfriend is extremely happy and is talking about getting a 75 gallon tank for them, so they have even more space.

I would still like all your opinions about adding the 2nd frog, and does anyone know any signs of an unhappy gecko? I want to keep an eye on that. I know when my frog is unhappy, I'm not so sure about a gecko.

Thank you all so much!
It really means a lot to me that you are all so willing to help!

 

[Sinosauropteryx]

Tomato frog toxicity

I am not 100% sure whether or not my tomato frog was raised in a pet store or if they captured it from the wild.

Unless you're 100% sure, I wouldn't put it in with any other animal besides its own species.

I'm pretty sure my gecko is a female, google wasn't very helpful in giving me tips to figure out the sex of my gecko but with all the tips I found it pointed to it being a female.

If you're still not completely sure about this then it might be time for a second oppinion. Or more research. And you don't necessarily need to see conflict between the animals for it to happen. Many reptiles refrain from naturalistic behaviour when they know they are being watched by people. It may be a good idea to watch for other signs of possible conflict like injury, abnormal behaviour or loss of apetite.

 

[taelynne]

Unless you're 100% sure, I wouldn't put it in with any other animal besides its own species.



If you're still not completely sure about this then it might be time for a second oppinion. Or more research. And you don't necessarily need to see conflict between the animals for it to happen. Many reptiles refrain from naturalistic behaviour when they know they are being watched by people. It may be a good idea to watch for other signs of possible conflict like injury, abnormal behaviour or loss of apetite.

I still haven't noticed anything abnormal
My frog has always been lazy, he chose a spot he seems to like and sleeps there all day.
I've been checking everyday for claw/bite marks, I haven't found anything but I'm not letting my guard down quite yet, if ever lol.
Tomorrow is feeding day, so I will keep an eye out and see if he eats.
If I notice any weird eating habits or loss of apetite I will definitely take him out.
But thank you so much for all your help, seriously!

 

[Sinosauropteryx]

Keeping an eye on things

OK. As long as you are keeping an eye on things. I'm still a bit concerned about that tomato frog though. Is there any way to make sure it won't be toxic to your other animals? Can you find out where it came from (I.e. where it was born)? And can you pick it up without getting any burns or abrasions on your skin?

 

[taelynne]

OK. As long as you are keeping an eye on things. I'm still a bit concerned about that tomato frog though. Is there any way to make sure it won't be toxic to your other animals? Can you find out where it came from (I.e. where it was born)? And can you pick it up without getting any burns or abrasions on your skin?

I actually decided to take the whites tree frog out and put him back with the tomato frog. He was starting to stay brown colored which he only does when he is unhappy and was staying in the same spot and getting lazy, which was weird to me. I didn't want to chance him being unhappy.

I am not 100% sure it won't be toxic, I wouldn't know until I knew if it was ever in the wild. I bought it from a pretty well known pet store. Chances are it was raised in captivity but I can't say for sure.

I pick it up and touch it probably more then I should, since tomato frogs don't really enjoy being touched, they puff up and stuff. I have never had any problems, no irritation, no burns, no weird stuff, so I am pretty sure he is safe. But once again, I do not know that for sure.

 

[michjael]

frog with gecko

It's not a good Idea to put frogs with any lizards,cause they will end up geting sick,all frogs make slime that is toxic and it stays in the water and when the gecko drinks the water it will make them sick or kill them so its a good Idea not to mix frog with geckos.