Cleaning Out Your Lygodactylus Williamsi

Red Devil

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Hi I am away to give my Williamsi tank a good clean out for the first time. I was wondering does anyone have a good method catching their Gecko's without causing too much stress?
I also think my female may be gravid and don't want to do anything that may harm her. Also if she lays her eggs would you just do your best to spot clean the tank or would you still strip everything out and just avoid the area where eggs are laid.
Finally how do you post a new thread with decent size photos?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
 
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I've found the easiest, least stressful way (for me and the animals) to catch your gecko is to use a large deli cup. Locate the animal over an flat area of the enclosure without other obstructions, slowly position the cup over the animal, place the cup on top of the animal (head first works for me) and then gently slide the lid past the animal and onto the cup.
This is the method we use to catch day geckos for our reptile shows.
 

WingedWolfPsion

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I did just reach in and grab the female I had to move, but she was particularly bold, and didn't try very hard to escape. The deli cup is likely much less of a shock to them--however, I think at the point where you are chasing them around too much, if you can't get them in the cup, picking them up probably gets it over with faster. Thankfully, they seem much less inclined to bolt for the cage opening than other geckos. These guys spend less time on flat surfaces than other geckos...I actually think they act more like anolis lizards.
 

Red Devil

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When I first got these I moved them over into there new tank and caught them by hand. They were up my sleeve and everywhere, it was a nightmare. My male has sneaked out once whilst I was misting but did return back himself. Must admit I would worry that I would lose them if I tried to catch by hand as they are so quick.
 

Red Devil

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The wife wasn't amused. She was freaking out incase they ended up on the loose. Don't think she would sleep if they escaped.
 

WingedWolfPsion

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I think the one I picked up was just plain surprised that I was actually grabbing her--she'd gotten used to my moving a few things around inside the cage, and had ticked me off on her mental list as a non-threat. These guys really surprise me with their intelligence. I've heard of folks feeding them by hand, and having them go so far as to jump onto their keeper's hand to grab a fly, then jump back into their cage.
 

Red Devil

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That is impressive. My two are non stop all day but freak as soon as I open up the tank. Would you recommend getting another female? I have read it is good too have 2 females and I have read they can be aggressive towards one another. I am finding a lot of care sheets say the opposite.
 

WingedWolfPsion

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I'm a newbie with this species, but just based on what I've seen so far, I think a pair will be extremely happy with one another. Three might be a crowd unless you have a larger cage. The subordinate female will have to be crafty to get food and basking time. My dominant female was obviously unusually aggressive, but it still points out the potential for a problem.
 

Red Devil

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They are in a 45 * 45 * 45 Exo Terra tank. I would really like another female but it's not worth it if they are going to be aggressive towards each other. It is a real shame males don't get along it would begreat to have a few of them. Cheers again for the advice.
 

WingedWolfPsion

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Aha, darn that metric...lol.
So about 18" square.

That should be a good size for a trio, or even quartet--I was keeping mine in a 10 gallon tank. If you have two feeding stations it will probably work. Just be prepared to remove any overly aggressive animals (but that's always a risk with groups, anyhow).
 

Red Devil

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It's maybe not worth it. I am really enjoying them and the wife would not be happy if I had to buy another set up because they didn't get along.
 

WingedWolfPsion

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Probably best, then--it can be tricky to introduce a new animal to an established group, anyhow, unless they're all going into a new 'territory'.
 

Red Devil

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Definately not! Could you possibly post a picture of your set up?
I don't know anyone else who keeps them so it would be really helpful to have a look.
Thanks
 

Chum

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I have tried first a pair, then a trio and now a quartet.

I started out with a pair in a 30x45x30 exo terra. That worked fine, they got along fine. Then I just like you read about that they could be housed as trio's. And I read that in nature the males normally had a small harem on some sort of palm tree. So I decided to get a female more. That too worked out fine. Well the females worked out a pecking order and one of the females was mostly hanging out in the bottom half of the terrarium. So I decided that I would like a bigger terrarium, and went for a 60x60x45 exoterra.

When I moved the geckos into the much larger terrarium they really loved that added livingspace. They where much more active, and were not just hanging around at the top, but went down to the bottom to look for woodlice and so on.

Later on I had the opportunity to get a single female more.. I went for it. It didn't work out perfectly at first, but as it is now it seem somewhat ok. ofcause there are some arguments among the females, but they all tolerate each other and can hang out at the top at once.

I think I have been lucky with the temperaments of the females I got, but for now I have a working quartet that have produced 10-14 eggs from the 30th of december til now.

As for pictures of a setup I have attached a few of my main terrarium with the 1.3 L. williamsi in.

Front view 01.jpg Left side 01.jpg Right side 01.jpg
Front view, Left side, and Right side.

As for loose geckos I have had a few of them, but I am so lucky that my wife does not panic about it, I can even get her to help me catch them :)

Loose gecko.jpg
This runaway gecko I knew was gone, or at least I was not able to see it in the terrarium for a whole evening (and I had already catched another runaway the same evening), but suddenly I noticed its little head pop out from behind a game of Trivial persuit right below the ceiling :)

Maybe you should tell your wife that if the geckos are loose it is actually an advantage for her - since they will be eating spiders and other small insects ;)


For catching the geckos I use the deli box trick too(I normally catch them when they sit on the ceiling of the enclosure. Also small fishnets can be very usefull and catching them at night or in the morning before they are warm. For juveniles I have found that a deli box with dusted fruitflies in works wonders, they dive in to eat, but can't get up again due to calcium dust on the sides of the box.
 
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Red Devil

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Your set up is amazing. Do your gecko's manage to find the crickets no bother?
Also what substrate are you using?
Cheers for the pictures and info.
 
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