Pitbullgeckos
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There will probably be a new nephrurus spices. It´s the milli from Hamersly Range that will have it´s own name, Nephrurus seorsus.
"New" Nephrurus spices
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Pitbullgeckos
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"N. seorsus is more slender than N. milii, has a longer snout, longer limbs and digits, larger background scales and a deeper angular mental scale. The pattern and colour also differ, as N. seorsus has a much plainer dorsal pattern on both the head and body, comprised of widely scattered pale tubercles. In contrast, N. milii often has relatively well-defined transverse bands, and usually has considerable areas of lighter patches on the head, including the labial scales and often extending across the top of the head."
From the draft paper
Seorsus means something like "a part". I refers to the big distance to the next milli pop, about 700 ks or so.
When talking to colleges who works in the area this "milli" is very rare and they do not see it often .
There are moore changes comming up in the taxonomi in the near future with the critters in the area. At least thats the word. But not to the geckos.
Another hotspot in taxonomi is Cape Range, I will not be supriserd if there is some new strophr described there soon.
From the draft paper
Seorsus means something like "a part". I refers to the big distance to the next milli pop, about 700 ks or so.
When talking to colleges who works in the area this "milli" is very rare and they do not see it often .
There are moore changes comming up in the taxonomi in the near future with the critters in the area. At least thats the word. But not to the geckos.
Another hotspot in taxonomi is Cape Range, I will not be supriserd if there is some new strophr described there soon.
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Pitbullgeckos
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I saw the paiper from people who are involved in the draft.
Pics; Well, to my knowlege there are only 6 speciment found so its probably hard to find
Authers should be Doughty & Oliver
Mill was in the Underwoodisaurius brefly but was put back to Nephr and have been so for some years I belive.
When/if it becomes a spices of it´s own it will be easyer to protect it from the miningindustry since it´s very rare and probably wounreble. Today its just another milli and the mining in the aera will kill them soon. But this is just speculation from me.
Pics; Well, to my knowlege there are only 6 speciment found so its probably hard to find
Authers should be Doughty & Oliver
Mill was in the Underwoodisaurius brefly but was put back to Nephr and have been so for some years I belive.
When/if it becomes a spices of it´s own it will be easyer to protect it from the miningindustry since it´s very rare and probably wounreble. Today its just another milli and the mining in the aera will kill them soon. But this is just speculation from me.
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Pitbullgeckos
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Sorry I brought it up mate.
I knowe the hammerslys are within the Karijini......
We all knowe what happend to mount Magnet, thats one seroius big hole, probably seen from the moon,,,,and totaly lifeless. Maby mount Nameless is next. Probably not but what do I knowe. Isn´t there plans to dig for Uran within parks in the Kimberlys?
Just speculating, sorry, it won´t happend again.
I knowe the hammerslys are within the Karijini......
We all knowe what happend to mount Magnet, thats one seroius big hole, probably seen from the moon,,,,and totaly lifeless. Maby mount Nameless is next. Probably not but what do I knowe. Isn´t there plans to dig for Uran within parks in the Kimberlys?
Just speculating, sorry, it won´t happend again.
Melville J, Schulte, James A.,: I.I., Larson A. (2004): A molecular study of phylogenetic relationships and evolution of antipredator strategies in australian diplodactylus geckos, subgenus strophurus. Biol J Linn Soc 82(1):123-38
It shows how close they are related with Nephrurus and it puts Underwoodisaurus into Nephrurus. You might have a look at this post:
http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...rwoodisaurus/25834-u-milii-now-nephrurus.html
bensen
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why be a drama queen about it? mount magnet was subject to a mining lease, the hammersleys are not.
Geck82
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Interesting but as Danny pointed out in the thread that it is not recognized in the country of origin.
Recognized by whom?
Geck82
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Sorry, you must have missed the last part that says "country of Origin" that being Australia.
None of the authors behind these publications are from Australia?
Kearney M. 2001. Postural thermoregulatory behavior in the nocturnal lizards christinus marmoratus and nephrurus milii (gekkonidae). Herpetological Review 32(1), March 2001:11-14. 32(1):11-4.
Kearney M, Shine R, Comber S, Pearson D. 2001. Why do geckos group? an analysis of "social" aggregations in two species of australian lizards. Herpetologica 57(4), December 2001:411-422. 57(4):411-22.
Melville J, Schulte, James A.,: I.I., Larson A. 2004. A molecular study of phylogenetic relationships and evolution of antipredator strategies in australian diplodactylus geckos, subgenus strophurus. Biol J Linn Soc 82(1):123-38.
Read JL. 1998. Are geckos useful bioindicators of air pollution? Oecologia (Berlin) 114(2), April 1998:180-187. 114(2):180-7.
Rehorek SJ, Firth BT, Hutchison MN. 1997. Morphology of the harderian gland of some australian geckos. Journal of Morphology 231(3), March 1997:253-259. 231(3):253-9.
Shah B, Shine R, Hudson S, Kearney M. 2003. Sociality in lizards: Why do thick-tailed geckos (nephrurus milii) aggregate? Behaviour 140(8-9):1039-52.
Shah B, Hudson S, Shine R. 2006. Social aggregation by thick-tailed geckos (nephrurus milii, gekkonidae): Does scat piling play a role? Australian Journal of Zoology 54(4) 2006: 271-275. 54(4):271-5.
Shah B, Shine R, Hudson S, Kearney M. 2004. Experimental analysis of retreat-site selection by thick-tailed geckos nephrurus milii. Austral Ecol 29(5):547-52.
Kearney M. 2001. Postural thermoregulatory behavior in the nocturnal lizards christinus marmoratus and nephrurus milii (gekkonidae). Herpetological Review 32(1), March 2001:11-14. 32(1):11-4.
Kearney M, Shine R, Comber S, Pearson D. 2001. Why do geckos group? an analysis of "social" aggregations in two species of australian lizards. Herpetologica 57(4), December 2001:411-422. 57(4):411-22.
Melville J, Schulte, James A.,: I.I., Larson A. 2004. A molecular study of phylogenetic relationships and evolution of antipredator strategies in australian diplodactylus geckos, subgenus strophurus. Biol J Linn Soc 82(1):123-38.
Read JL. 1998. Are geckos useful bioindicators of air pollution? Oecologia (Berlin) 114(2), April 1998:180-187. 114(2):180-7.
Rehorek SJ, Firth BT, Hutchison MN. 1997. Morphology of the harderian gland of some australian geckos. Journal of Morphology 231(3), March 1997:253-259. 231(3):253-9.
Shah B, Shine R, Hudson S, Kearney M. 2003. Sociality in lizards: Why do thick-tailed geckos (nephrurus milii) aggregate? Behaviour 140(8-9):1039-52.
Shah B, Hudson S, Shine R. 2006. Social aggregation by thick-tailed geckos (nephrurus milii, gekkonidae): Does scat piling play a role? Australian Journal of Zoology 54(4) 2006: 271-275. 54(4):271-5.
Shah B, Shine R, Hudson S, Kearney M. 2004. Experimental analysis of retreat-site selection by thick-tailed geckos nephrurus milii. Austral Ecol 29(5):547-52.
Not unfounded at all. You can still mine a National Park, it's just a lot trickier and requires more offsets. The outcry from the public is generally more severe as well.
WAM classifies milli as Nephrurus. I'm not sure why that in their latest publication, Wilson and Swan didn't stick them back in Nephrurus either.
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secco
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this would be Nephrurus seorsus? I see as a locality of milii ..