Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus eggs
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JimmyNightlizard
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Pegu egg incubation
What your doing looks pretty good, just make sure to keep the temps in the low to mid 70's. 78 degrees is about the max that I would allow with these eggs. I used a 5" high plastic food storage containor with a few small holes at the top. I hatched out a few pegu's on slightly damp coco fiber, it took about 100 days for them to hatch. But from what I heard from others, it can take anywhere from 3-5 months. Good luck!
What your doing looks pretty good, just make sure to keep the temps in the low to mid 70's. 78 degrees is about the max that I would allow with these eggs. I used a 5" high plastic food storage containor with a few small holes at the top. I hatched out a few pegu's on slightly damp coco fiber, it took about 100 days for them to hatch. But from what I heard from others, it can take anywhere from 3-5 months. Good luck!
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Elizabeth Freer
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Julie ~
Are these C.p.peguensis or zebraicus?
Are these C.p.peguensis or zebraicus?
sikorae
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JimmyNightlizard
Elizabeth Freer
Thanks a lot for the info, I have the incubat or set at around 70 deg, so hopefully they should be fine
Elizabeth Freer
I bought them as Peguensis, but I have read a thread on here about there not being any Peguensis. So they may be zebraicus - I would be interested to know either way, if you know a way to tell the difference
sikorae
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Thanks Graham, fingers crossedCongratulations Julie! Let's hope they hatch
JimmyNightlizard
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Do you have any pics of the adults that you can share? If so, I can tell you which subspecies you have.
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JimmyNightlizard
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Pegu pics.
Julie,
These 3 specimens are all C. p. zebraicus. And very good looking ones if I might add! The way you tell the difference is all in the pattern. C. peguensis peguensis has spots covering its entire body. C. peguensis zebraicus has spots only on the top of the head, and the back, they have white stripes on the sides. Great pics
Julie,
These 3 specimens are all C. p. zebraicus. And very good looking ones if I might add! The way you tell the difference is all in the pattern. C. peguensis peguensis has spots covering its entire body. C. peguensis zebraicus has spots only on the top of the head, and the back, they have white stripes on the sides. Great pics
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Elizabeth Freer
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Thanks for the identification, Jimmy.
Hoorah for Julie :biggrin:!!! Keep up the great breeding. Look forward to pictures of hatchlings and hopefully a pair of my own someday soon.
Hoorah for Julie :biggrin:!!! Keep up the great breeding. Look forward to pictures of hatchlings and hopefully a pair of my own someday soon.
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Any reasoning or fact based information on why people are scared to let their Cyrto. eggs get any warmer than the mid 70's??? I would have no trouble letting these eggs go 78-80'F as long as there is some sort of night time drop. AS long they aren't consistently exposed to higher temps for extended periods of time (i.e.82'F+). Just curious why I keep seeing this. These animals experience temps in the low 80's in their natural habitat quite frequently. I also don't prefer to directly incubated "hard shelled" eggs on wet substrate. A milkcap filled with sand placed on a moist incubation medium will help keep the egg/s from going bad as frequently. I think this is why most people breeding Uroplatus have issues incubating their eggs. What you have to remember is Most geckos don't bury their eggs very deep in the wild, so they experience a little bit of "wet" being on top but you have to also realize they are also going to dry out a lot quicker (than if they were in deep soil) after the rain has subsided causing the "upper" portion of the soil to be relatively dry with the moisture coming primarily from the air humidity. Just my 2 cents...
Any reasoning or fact based information on why people are scared to let their Cyrto. eggs get any warmer than the mid 70's??? I would have no trouble letting these eggs go 78-80'F as long as there is some sort of night time drop. AS long they aren't consistently exposed to higher temps for extended periods of time (i.e.82'F+). Just curious why I keep seeing this. These animals experience temps in the low 80's in their natural habitat quite frequently. I also don't prefer to directly incubated "hard shelled" eggs on wet substrate. A milkcap filled with sand placed on a moist incubation medium will help keep the egg/s from going bad as frequently. I think this is why most people breeding Uroplatus have issues incubating their eggs. What you have to remember is Most geckos don't bury their eggs very deep in the wild, so they experience a little bit of "wet" being on top but you have to also realize they are also going to dry out a lot quicker (than if they were in deep soil) after the rain has subsided causing the "upper" portion of the soil to be relatively dry with the moisture coming primarily from the air humidity. Just my 2 cents...
Elizabeth Freer
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Any reasoning or fact based information on why people are scared to let their Cyrto. eggs get any warmer than the mid 70's??? I would have no trouble letting these eggs go 78-80'F as long as there is some sort of night time drop. AS long they aren't consistently exposed to higher temps for extended periods of time (i.e.82'F+). Just curious why I keep seeing this. These animals experience temps in the low 80's in their natural habitat quite frequently. I also don't prefer to directly incubated "hard shelled" eggs on wet substrate. A milkcap filled with sand placed on a moist incubation medium will help keep the egg/s from going bad as frequently. I think this is why most people breeding Uroplatus have issues incubating their eggs. What you have to remember is Most geckos don't bury their eggs very deep in the wild, so they experience a little bit of "wet" being on top but you have to also realize they are also going to dry out a lot quicker (than if they were in deep soil) after the rain has subsided causing the "upper" portion of the soil to be relatively dry with the moisture coming primarily from the air humidity. Just my 2 cents...
Leland ~
I have heard that Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus are TSD. So more males would be produced at higher temperatures.
I am a Cyrtodactylus newbie eager to get started with the chirpers of this genus :biggrin:. All information most welcome!
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DDReptiles
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Figure I would post on here as all of a sudden I seem have been bombarded by people with a sudden interest in Cyrtodactylus.
First of all I don't consider myself by any stretch of the imagination as anyone who really knows a lot about Cyrtodactylus. Yeah I keep/breed a number of species (7 or 8 I believe, haven't counted) and have had some success with them (around 45 babies of various Cyrto. species last year, from various species). However this genus is so huge that I only know what the top of the iceberg looks like. They are describing new Cyrtodactylus every year and they probably will continue this for atleast a few more decades as Southeast asia itself is a hotspot for new species.
Anyways, I don't believe anybody in the world has produced enough Cyrtodactylus ( let alone a single species like peguensis) to have any real data/numbers to suggest that they are TSD. You really need a large number of offspring all kept at varying degrees of stable temperature in order to determine this. Cyrtodactylus in captivity, as Leland said are in the stone age in terms of what has been accomplished with Leopard Geckos, Ball pythons, etc. These are species that have been bred in captivity for decades, Cyrtodactylus on the other hand are now only kept by a small handful of people and are still a gecko that not a lot of people even know about--other than maybe the cheap pulchellus or intermedius you see half dead on importers list from time to time.
Also from my experience, Cyrtodactylus eggs seem to be do better when provided a range or temperatures, instead of being left at a constant temperature for the duration of the incubation period, so this being the case provides just another challenge in trying to figure out TSD.
I think you are doing good right now if you are just able to consistently get babies from these geckos and maintain a viable population of them in captivity. Its not an easy thing to do, especially since each species is rather specific in the niche it is designed to fill in the wild. Also supply of animals is another factor, not a lot of people care about them enough to want to invest money to import them. Its also tough to convince yourself that producing a lot of these geckos is a good theing when no one wants to buy them for anywhere near the price they should really cost. It wasn't until someone on here posted a video of a peguensis chirping that people seemed to think they were "cute" enough to work with. News Flash--- pretty much all Cyrtodactylus are capable of making an audible sound (as are the majority of other geckos), so the basis of wanting to work with a species I think should run a little deeper than the sound it is capable of making--seems rather shallow to me atleast.
I think Cyrtodactylus is an incredible genus of geckos with so many unique species and characteristics and they are very impressive when kept properly.
Derek
First of all I don't consider myself by any stretch of the imagination as anyone who really knows a lot about Cyrtodactylus. Yeah I keep/breed a number of species (7 or 8 I believe, haven't counted) and have had some success with them (around 45 babies of various Cyrto. species last year, from various species). However this genus is so huge that I only know what the top of the iceberg looks like. They are describing new Cyrtodactylus every year and they probably will continue this for atleast a few more decades as Southeast asia itself is a hotspot for new species.
Anyways, I don't believe anybody in the world has produced enough Cyrtodactylus ( let alone a single species like peguensis) to have any real data/numbers to suggest that they are TSD. You really need a large number of offspring all kept at varying degrees of stable temperature in order to determine this. Cyrtodactylus in captivity, as Leland said are in the stone age in terms of what has been accomplished with Leopard Geckos, Ball pythons, etc. These are species that have been bred in captivity for decades, Cyrtodactylus on the other hand are now only kept by a small handful of people and are still a gecko that not a lot of people even know about--other than maybe the cheap pulchellus or intermedius you see half dead on importers list from time to time.
Also from my experience, Cyrtodactylus eggs seem to be do better when provided a range or temperatures, instead of being left at a constant temperature for the duration of the incubation period, so this being the case provides just another challenge in trying to figure out TSD.
I think you are doing good right now if you are just able to consistently get babies from these geckos and maintain a viable population of them in captivity. Its not an easy thing to do, especially since each species is rather specific in the niche it is designed to fill in the wild. Also supply of animals is another factor, not a lot of people care about them enough to want to invest money to import them. Its also tough to convince yourself that producing a lot of these geckos is a good theing when no one wants to buy them for anywhere near the price they should really cost. It wasn't until someone on here posted a video of a peguensis chirping that people seemed to think they were "cute" enough to work with. News Flash--- pretty much all Cyrtodactylus are capable of making an audible sound (as are the majority of other geckos), so the basis of wanting to work with a species I think should run a little deeper than the sound it is capable of making--seems rather shallow to me atleast.
I think Cyrtodactylus is an incredible genus of geckos with so many unique species and characteristics and they are very impressive when kept properly.
Derek
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I think it's a not that bad thing Cyrtodactylus species still be a "dark genus".. Almost every species have differents behaviours, and all the species we don't have in captivity live in some remote location... Until there is not imports from there, we should try to make a good work with the species we already have sometimes in captivity (peguensis, elok (brevipalmatus ?), pulchellus, intermedius, consobrinus, etc)..
Derek, you make a good job with theses species (and others), be patient, one day this genus will be recognize as it should be
Derek, you make a good job with theses species (and others), be patient, one day this genus will be recognize as it should be
Speed_freak
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Awww so cute!
