Gekko smithi, The Green Eyed Gecko

billewicz

billewicz

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Why Mr. Smith, what green eyes you have!

After asking around for the last 6 months, I finally acquired my first Green Eyed Gecko. Even though these guys were somewhat common in the import trade 4-5 years ago, like a lot of cheap reptiles, they do not seem to be bothered with anymore.

I'm looking into my Indonesian connection to see if we can bring some in. I want to have a couple of breeding groups here and would offer the rest for sale. I'm just wondering how many to bring in. Assuming they are under a $100, would anybody be interested in a pair? (This is not a sales commitment, just looking to gauge any interest anyone might have.)
 

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Logie Bear

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He's so cute! XD

I would be so very interested. Yes indeedy. :)

So you actually know someone over there that helps in importing these guys in? Lucky!
 
billewicz

billewicz

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Yeah,
I established a relationship with an importer and his Indonesian connections. I'd love to say it was mostly luck, but really it was the $70,000 I've spent with them over the last year.
 
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Logie Bear

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Oh wow, yeah I s'pose that'd do it. :eek: Hope he's able to hook you up with some smithii. It'd be nice to start seeing them bred stateside. Best of luck!
 
billewicz

billewicz

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There have been a handful of more recent 'discoveries' along the Mekong River and Central Indonesia like the Gekko nutaphandi BAUER, SUMONTHA & PAUWELS, 2008

Have a new species to play with would be fun as well.
 
Riverside Reptiles

Riverside Reptiles

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The pic in my avatar is one of my Paroedura masobe...IMO one of the coolest gecko species out there. If you can manage to get hold of some Gekko nutaphandi in, I'd be interested though. Probably down with some smithii as well if the price is right.
 
billewicz

billewicz

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I put the request in. It could be a few months but it's always worth a shot. I put a caveat on the quantity. If we can sell them for $100, or less, than I have a 30+ standing order. If they are more, than I'm just getting a dozen for myself to work with.

There were a couple of folks that wanted the smithi that I just got. He was $100. So that's my benchmark for know.
 
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Ingo

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Why import smithii, if you already have some? They are very prolific and its much more ethic to produce cb ones than importing.
One pair can produce 12 babies a year and they grow fast!
BTW, there are many interesting species out there, which have not yet been established in captivity. I would love to see some Gekko reevesi, verreauxi, ernstkelleri and the like.
A hint for you US guys: Look at marbled gecko imports. I have heard that in the US, they sometimes contain species like takouensis and others. In fact, the true grossmanni is rare to be seen. Seems like most marbleds coming in in fact are canaensis.

Best regards

Ingo
 
daggekko

daggekko

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I definately like the green eyeds. 10 years ago I had one green eyed gecko that looked different from all the others I've seen since. I actually ended up getting 1.4 more after a couple years and put 2 of the girls in with the older male I had and they NEVER had any babies. It was wierd. When I put the 2 girls in with the male that looked like them they started laying eggs. I wouldn't be so sure on $100/gecko but if I saw them for sale I'd be tempted to get a pair
Not the best picture but you can see how this one looked different.
 
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Ingo

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The Gecko on that pic is a Gekko siamensis, not a smithii and those two species do never interbreed.

Best regards

Ingo
 
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Palor

Palor

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Green eyed geckos are so cool. There are several species of them. My friend I have a male & female and not a clue what species they are exactly. Will have to get pics up so Ingo can tell us :)
 
billewicz

billewicz

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Some? It has taken me over a year to find my first G. smithi in the US. I'm not willing to wait any longer so if I can bring in a fresh group of G. smithi, or G. Nataphandi, I will.

And the import game is not so easy. As you have noted, it is not uncommon to get something other than what you have prepaid for and usually they are not special. So you get stuck with animals that you paid 10 times what they are worth.

The goal is to establish a couple of breeding groups. As to the other island specific Gekko sub-species, I let someone else forge that trail.
 
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Ingo

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You are right,

I got several G. smithii labelled as siamensis till I had my pair of true siamensis. Also, I do not find any true grossmanni since more than 7 years.
Nutaphandi would be great, though I assume, they are just a morph of siamensis like the red eyed vittatus are a regarded as a morph or the blue eyed smithii, .....albofasciatus I would also love to have.
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Best regards

Ingo

Yield of one year from one pair of smithii:
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daggekko

daggekko

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Do any of you have pictures of all these species? Seems a couple of you actually know all the differences between the species.

And wow, I just looked up the red eye vittatus. How come this is the first time I've ever seen them?

Does anyone have a picture of the blue eye smithii as well?

Very interesting. :biggrin:
 
Riverside Reptiles

Riverside Reptiles

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The red eyed vittatas used to be pretty common (and fairly cheap too). Not so any more unfortunately. That's the downside to being in this hobby a long time...all the stuff you see come and go and some of it you never see again and all you can do is kick yourself for letting it pass by. I can't even begin to tell you all of the species I wish I had bought over the past 25 years.
 
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