The humid hide is on the UTH side which has been maintaining a 85-90 temp. I'm using sphagnum moss dipped in warm ro water then squeezed out to keep humid. Both new Leo's molted yesterday, and left it just outside of their hide, so I know that the humid hide is working however, I check the moss morning and night to see if it's still damp, and both AM & PM it's dry as a bone. Am I not soaking it long enough? Does it need to be more damp? Does it always need to be humid in there? Or is this just what I need to do periodically throughout the day (which I don't mind)?
The humid hide
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Mardy
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You are doing fine, you can allow the moss to be a bit more dripping wet if you want to keep it moist long enough. But if you have your moist hide sitting directly above the UTH, it will dry out faster, and there's not much you can do about it. However leopard geckos don't need a completely moist hide 100% of the time so having it dry during the day while they sleep is fine. You could place the moist hide in a way that half of it is over warn floor, the other half cool. Doing it this way may allow you to keep the moisture inside the moisthide longer.
Also depends on what you use as your moist hide container. If you use a container with the opening on the top, try one with an opening on the side so moisture does not escape as easy.
With regards to sphagnum moss, I feel I should toss in an user warning. Leopard geckos are known to ingest sphagnum moss at times. And as you can see how the moss is, it's not digestible. So sometimes they get impacted due to sphagnum moss. It's a warning you don't hear often, but impaction from sphagnum moss happens more than you think with leopard geckos. Just google it up and you will find plenty of forum threads and ugly pictures of this happening.
I saw this happen not with my own geckos, but with someone else's. Ever since then I've used wet paper towels as the moist hide medium. It works well for me and I'm happy to not have to worry about impaction risk. Some people also use cocofiber, which is also a fine alternative to sphagnum moss. Cocofiber is small enough that if ingested, they don't seem to have that negative effect that sphagnum moss have.
Anyways, thought I'd toss these ideas out there. You as the owner gets to decide what's best for your own pets. Good luck
Also depends on what you use as your moist hide container. If you use a container with the opening on the top, try one with an opening on the side so moisture does not escape as easy.
With regards to sphagnum moss, I feel I should toss in an user warning. Leopard geckos are known to ingest sphagnum moss at times. And as you can see how the moss is, it's not digestible. So sometimes they get impacted due to sphagnum moss. It's a warning you don't hear often, but impaction from sphagnum moss happens more than you think with leopard geckos. Just google it up and you will find plenty of forum threads and ugly pictures of this happening.
I saw this happen not with my own geckos, but with someone else's. Ever since then I've used wet paper towels as the moist hide medium. It works well for me and I'm happy to not have to worry about impaction risk. Some people also use cocofiber, which is also a fine alternative to sphagnum moss. Cocofiber is small enough that if ingested, they don't seem to have that negative effect that sphagnum moss have.
Anyways, thought I'd toss these ideas out there. You as the owner gets to decide what's best for your own pets. Good luck
Thanks for the info. I did not realize that sphagnum miss could be a hazard. I think I will look into another alternative. I thought about paper towels at first and probably should've gone with that. The sponge idea is interesting. Maybe I'm being a bit too cautious but, I think a sea sponge would be best, vs the color dyed sponges that you see in the grocery store.
Riverside Reptiles
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Grocery store sponge works fine too. Keep in mind that people use them to wash their dishes that they eat off of. So they're obviously safe and non toxic. Something else to keep in mind is that you do want the humid hide to dry out some as constant heat + humidity = the perfect environment for bacteria to breed. So keep it very clean and do let it dry out from time to time. One of the nice things about sponges is that they can be run through the dish washer.
I was just thinking the same. I know that sponge that sometimes sits behind the sink sure get nasty sometimes. Guess that's why it's suggested to nuke your kitchen sponges from time to time. I suppose the same idea could be applied to our humi sponges, too.
Yoshi'smom
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Another warning about a dish sponge is that you may want to really rinse it well before you put it in the tank. I've had dish sponges come straight out of the package with pre-soapies in it.... Other than that I think a sponge would be a great alternative.
I agree that the typical grocery store sponge will most likely contain chemicals that we don't want however, I think a natural sea sponge would be best.
Russellm0704
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My humid hides use paper towel and yes dry out very quickly since they sit on top of the warm spot. I just mist them when I wake up and before I go to sleep. My geckos all prefer their warm hides because they love the cave feeling of it and feel more secure, and having the hide always wet is not good for a Leo who spends all their time in it
I used to use paper towel in my moist hides. Both of my Leos ended up eating it while they where shedding. With one of my girls, it was a small enough amount for her to pass (still a scary situation)...with the other one, it was a huge piece, and required a vet visit (long story short, she's fine today).
I switched to plantation soil (a lot like eco earth), then went back to paper towels with river rocks on top, which didn't allow the moisture to condense like it used to. I'm actually giving spagnum moss a chance, and using some of the river rocks to weight it down. So far so good.
I'll take the recommendations into consideration on the impaction risks...but I can't help but feel that my geckos couldn't tell the white moist paper towel from their skin...and just kept tearing and eating.
I switched to plantation soil (a lot like eco earth), then went back to paper towels with river rocks on top, which didn't allow the moisture to condense like it used to. I'm actually giving spagnum moss a chance, and using some of the river rocks to weight it down. So far so good.
I'll take the recommendations into consideration on the impaction risks...but I can't help but feel that my geckos couldn't tell the white moist paper towel from their skin...and just kept tearing and eating.