Introduced female Phelsuma cepediana to male

mkschaefer

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I just introduced a female cepediana to my male. I am presently working with 1.2. I had 1.3 until a made a foolish mistake last year. I had surgery and when I get home I checked on all my Phelsuma. I had not seen one of my female P. cepediana for a few days, which is common unless you sit still and wait, so I began looking for her. I took a flashlight, lifted a bamboo section out of the enclosure and there she was...until she darted out, leaped to the floor (only a short drop as I was kneeling), and ran across the floor. I had no idea where she went and, though there were multiple sightings for a while, I have not found her. I am certain she died somewhere. It was a very foolish mistake, one that I have not done with other Phelsuma (with the exception of kochi, standingi, and other big and slow Phelsuma). I really have no idea why I did it and blame it on recovery from surgery. I knew better and hope my mistake will encourage others to be more careful than I was.

Anyway, my female cepediana typically hole up in bamboo. I simply put screen with a rubber band over the end of the bamboo and can easily transport them. Unfortunately, the male does not hole up in the bamboo he has in the enclosure. I am adding larger diameter bamboo to see if he will. He is quite bold but does bolt around the enclosure if you are not slow and deliberate when doing ANYTHING.

After talking with Leann, I decided to add one female to the male's enclosure and monitor closely for some time. If she becomes gravid, I will remove the female and add the other one. I recently did the same thing with my borbonica. (The females hole up but the male is near impossible to catch, especially in his densely planted territory. I removed the very gravid female and introduced my other one). The enclosure is not as densely planted as I would like, but I think I would have much more difficulty catching them in case something happened. It has enough bamboo to give the female security, at least in my human opinion. I am not a female cepediana.

The pair is getting along quite well, though I am watching them closely. I like Leann's approach because the females naturally run to hide and so they are easily moveable. I do not have to worry about stressing myself and the male by covering him and the enclosure in mosquito netting and hoping I catch him quickly. I also like this approach as it allows me to swap females and minimizes the loss of a female as she is kept with him for a specified time. It will be interesting to compare results with others who pair their animals year round. I know that other members of the co-op have success with both methods and hope I can contribute to their valuable work with this species.

I am sorry for the poor quality of the pictures. I took the pictures late in the afternoon and had weird lighting in the gecko room. I am still trying to figure out how to take decent pictures with our new DSLR.

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terradas

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Very exciting, keep us posted on how this progresses! And you'd be surprised how resilient these guys are, how long ago did the female escape? I lost a grandis hatchling, literally right out of the egg, in my unfinished basement for 3 weeks in November in western NY.

Found it 3 weeks later still alive in a completely different area of the basement. Not bad for a new born.

Be sure to let me know about babies. The wife is softening to the idea of more geckos and she likes cepediana, but who doesn't?
 

mkschaefer

New member
That is impressive concerning the escaped and recaptured grandis. A few years ago, I had a baby kochi jump out from the incubation container after I opened it and it ran down the wall. It found a dark, tight place underneath the trim. I tried to coax it out but eventually removed the trim and had to do some work on the drywall. We are putting our house on the market so I can't wait to build a better/ escape proof gecko room soon.
I am sure the cepediana is dead as it escaped last April/ May and I have not had a glimpse of it for months. I stopped putting food out and disassembled the surveillance camera and computer for image/ video recording. I knew that she got from the finished part of my basement to the unfinished section. Once there, it would be very difficult to find her. She could have gone behind drywall, into a crevice, just anywhere. I almost suspect she could have even crawled into one of my Ctenosaura or Varanus enclosures through a small vent. They are all very warm and some are quite humid. If she did, I'm sure she did not survive for very long, unfortunately. It really was a shame but I have much better technique now and do not do ridiculous things like I did to let her out.
If i get babies, they will be offered within the cepediana co-op for trade/ purchase and then, if no one is interested, outside the co-op. That is my understanding of how the agreement works. I am hoping to acquire more males and other individuals as well since I am really fond of the species. I will keep you informed.
 

daggekko

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Very nice!! Make sure you figure that camera out:biggrin: We all want to see more photos! I can't remember if you've posted photos of your enclosures but I would really like to see some.

Hope all goes well with the cepediana!
 

mkschaefer

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The female is very gravid. I took these pictures with my cell phone camera, so they aren't the greatest quality. I have seen the eggs while she rests on the glass, but it is hard to get a picture of her. I do blast the bamboo and plants quite often, but am sorry for the mess.

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Ivan M

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WOW congrats, those CEPEDIANA are Stunning. I would not mine a pair, lol but then again who wouldn't.
 

gregadc

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Could you please post some update?
Is still so little info available about Cepediana out there..
Cheers
 

mkschaefer

New member
Sorry for the delay. I thought I posted about this in another thread, but perhaps I didn't. The female laid a clutch and the eggs hatched. I will have to check the exact date. I lost one male and one female from separate pairs this year, but have obtained a few more to replace them (thanks, guys). The hatchlings are really nicely colored.
 
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