pvc hide ?

Tokayy

New member
It's all up to you really. Just make sure the piece is long enough for the tokay to get into and too hide her full body. Then after that it doesn't matter how big it is. Could have one almost the same height as the cage if you really wanted to.
 

billewicz

New member
:fight:Man! I just don't get the PVC thing. Maybe if you have just one pair or a couple of Tokay maybe.....

I had to remove a male from a pairing today so the female can rest. I had a nice 2 1/2" ID cork tube in the enclosure because the female was a bit shy and much smaller than the male so I thought a tube would give her some safety.

Of course, once these two got along, they both spend their days snuggled in the tube. I've tried to 'catch' them at night when they are out of the tube, but they'd run right in when I try to remove it.

It took me over an hour to gently coax these two out of there today.:fight: I really do not have that kind of time to spend on one simple operation.:roll: I was going to pull a total of 8 males today but ran out of time.

I gave up PVC a year ago for the same reason and now I remember why. The other reason was that eggs did not get enough ventilation and molded in the tubes all the time.

Anyhow, my hat's off to those who can make PVC work for them. It's just not me.:evil:

Good luck and all the best,

Michael
 

Riverside Reptiles

Administrator (HMFIC)
Well one thing that you have to keep in mind is that the majority of tokay owners only have one or two, not an entire collection to deal with. So there's much more of a pet mentality than a breeder mentality. They're not trying to rush through cleaning 100 enclosures or whatever. But I do have a decent collection of them and I still love my pvc. I don't mind at all having eggs get laid in pvc. Never had an issue with too much humidity. I can just remove the pvc tube with the eggs out of the enclosure and replace it with a fresh tube for the next clutch. Then I set the pvc tube in a closet with a sticky note with the date on it so I know when to expect hatchlings. No problems. And I find the fact that they like to hide in the tube to be an asset. It makes it very easy and stress free on the animals to be able to just pick them up in the tube and move them to a different location when needed. No chasing, no barking, no biting, no stress on the animals. If I for some reason need to get them out of the tube, a little poke with any sort of stick will usually send them right out the other end. So I guess in the end it's really just about personal choice. There's pretty much always more than one way to skin a cat.
 

Riverside Reptiles

Administrator (HMFIC)
Really you just set them in the closet?

Depending on the temp of the room, tokay eggs don't really need any extra heat to incubate. Many people just leave the eggs right in the enclosure with the parents. Tokays will guard their eggs and their babies unlike many other species. I usually take mine out of the enclosure just to be on the safe side though. I have a closet in my herp room that I put all of my eggs that don't require incubators in. Since it's in my herp room, it stays pretty warm all the time.
 

billewicz

New member
In Indonesia the night time low averages 77 degrees and the daytime high averages 90 degrees.

Depending on the island and the time of the year 85 nightime is typical and 92 upwards toward 95 is not uncommon.

Since these are tropical islands it rains almost every day. Just more during the rainy season and because they are islands, they do not stray too much from these averages.
 
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