Let's Talk About Lighting

hypnotoad

New member
Hey everybody, long time no post.
Just set up a reef tank because I apparently don't already have enough expensive hobbies involving exotic animals.
Anyway, I'm learning reefers are very picky about lights and there are tons of options available. The most popular being T5 High Output Fluorescent, Metal Halide, and most recently LED. Reefers deal with all sorts of different light intensities and wavelengths. The difference between indoor and outdoor raised phelsuma means that we deal with very light sensitive animals too.
So why are most of us still using wimpy t8 or t12 fluorescents and yellow-orange halogen puck lights made to light garages, cabinets and desks? Aren't there ways be can better simulate sunlight?

About a year and a half ago I switched from 5000k T8's to a quad fixture, reflector that holds 4 6500k 2 foot 24 Watt T5 High output bulbs I bought from an online hydroponic outfitter.

The difference in the appearance of the tank is night and day. Tons more light, tons more plant growth. My klemmeri have brightened up a bit-especially the male-but still nowhere close to pictures of outdoor raised or wild ones I've seen.

So I did some more research. Check out a chart from this excellent article on aquarium lighting: Aquarium Lighting; Reef, Planted Light Information. PAR, Bulb, Watt, Kelvin, Nanometers, MH, LED.
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Notice the wavelengths where a daylight bulb spikes? Deep blue, yellowy green and orange.
Does this have something to do with the orange/brownish/brick red mottling we see on captive Barbonicas, Ornatas and Cepedianas? How about the brown on my male Klem's back where wild ones are bright blue? Do we need to target certain wavelengths to get certain colors out of our favorite critters? Not being glib, but seriously asking because I don't know how this works. Just a hair brained theory of mine.

Or is it maybe about light intensity? This is where Metal Halides come in, which theoretically give Phelsumas better colors, but I can't find anything about it online. In fact, i recently did a google search for "phelsuma metal halide" and all I got were care sheets from LLL that say you can use halides if you want and a link to a thread here where I, myself had asked about halides some time ago. I realize there's a lot of reasons most people don't use them. They're expensive, suck a lot of juice and they're hot. But how do they work if employed right?

I guess it might even be worth thinking about LED's. They don't have much output but you can get them specific to any number of wavelengths and what they lack in power, they can make up for in focus. Maybe setting the right one next to a basking lamp could make a big difference.

Anyone have any insight or Ideas? Am I naive for thinking it might be as simple as "better light=better color?"

Anyway, I'm experimenting a tad on my own. I just cruised by my local reef shop and grabbed an actinic t5 bulb that fits in my fixture. I just installed it in the second slot on the fixture. Actinic bulbs spike at a 460nm wavelength, which as you can see from the chart above is pretty close to a Klemmeri's blue. I'm also toying with the idea of hanging a metal halide from my laundry room ceiling and finding a distance for a safe basking temperature and setting up a viv under that to see what I come up with.

I may be wasting time and money with all this, but I guess I'm just perplexed as to why it hasn't been explored more. Or maybe it has and I have no idea because I can't read or write in German. Again, any input will be much appreciated.
 

m.roesch

New member
Hi

I hope I have understood everything correctly.
I think it is important that we use a light that comes as close as possible to natural sunlight. This also means that they emit light in the UV-A and UV-B area.
Here is chart of the Spectrum of sunlight:
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This is possible with full spectrum fluorescent tubes. I use this for some time. However, I do not know the market in America. A leader here is the company Narva. Their tubes are 5800 Kelvin with a color rendering index (CRI) > 90.
The color rendering index determines the similarity to sunlight (CRI 100). The higher the value, the better.
Spectrum of Narva Bio Vital:
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You can see the differences to your daylight fluorescent, which stops at 400 nm!

Another option is the metal halide lamps. These also have a very good range close to that of sunlight. There are basically divided in two types.
Without UV: For example, the Powerball HCI-TS NDL from Osram, which has a color rendering index of 95 and has 4200 Kelvin.
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And with UV: a new technology, especially for the Terrarium. There are many different manufacturers. Among other Lucky Reptile, Solar Raptor and X-Reptile. All have in common is that they emit a higher amount of UV-A and UV-B. This type can be used as all in one, UV, heat and light.
Here is a link to Lucky Reptile: Lucky Reptile - Products

LED, another alternative, however, convinced the cost / performance ratio is still not there. A good metal halide lamp comes with the same power consumption as much light into the terrarium. And you won't be in need for a heat spot, as you are in with LED. But I'm sure there will soon be more efficient LED.

Currently, the non plus ultra is probably a combination of T5 lamps and metal halide lamps.
I myself combine the T5 tubes with low-voltage halogen spotlights to selectively create basking sites. This for the reason, as a combination of T5 lamps and metal halide lamps would emit too much heat.

Kind regards
Markus
 

Rcteem

New member
I'm using the led lights from lightyourreptiles.com and a UVB for mine. The UVB bulb is placed over the basking areas and led light for overall lighting. Works/ looks very well I think.
 
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