Naultinus Gemmeus C.B 2012

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GeorgeG10

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hi guys! my name is George.

I take my first post to introduce myself ...

I am a European newcomer to Canada. First I have to say that all my geckos are captive bred and totally legal, I love these animals ... I do not know how things work in America. I hope you tell me not to do anything that might be wrong.

If possible I would like to upload some photos if any lover of these reptiles in this forum.

regards
 
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GeorgeG10

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excuse me for taking so long to upload photos... I HOPE YOU LIKE!!!
 

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Corwin's Keeper

Corwin's Keeper

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GeorgeG10 said:
I am a European newcomer to Canada.
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Hello George and welcome!

Did you get your gecko in Canada or bring it over from Europe? If you transported it, did they easily allow it on the plane? My boyfriend has talked about moving to another country, I was just wondering how that process went for you (unless you bought it upon arrival). Thanks! :)
 
NZherpz

NZherpz

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Legal gemmeus?

I find it interesting that you say your N. gemmeus are legal, given that there has NEVER been a legitimate export of this species (particularly the variety shown in your picture) out of New Zealand!

Captive bred?...or captive born?...more likely born to a pregnant female, smuggled illegally into Europe, and purchased as a "captive-bred" animal!
 
Riverside Reptiles

Riverside Reptiles

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NZherpz said:
I find it interesting that you say your N. gemmeus are legal, given that there has NEVER been a legitimate export of this species (particularly the variety shown in your picture) out of New Zealand!

Captive bred?...or captive born?...more likely born to a pregnant female, smuggled illegally into Europe, and purchased as a "captive-bred" animal!
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Nobody here supports the act of smuggling animals. But at the same time, we are not here to accuse or judge anyone either.
 
NZherpz

NZherpz

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I was not accusing, but merely stating the facts. However, I strongly disagree with your comment that "Nobody here supports the act of smuggling."

It would just be nice if people respected NZ's (and other countries') laws and decisions regarding the protection of native lizards.
 
Riverside Reptiles

Riverside Reptiles

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In a perfect world there's lots of things that would be nice. Unfortunately, you're always going to have a percentage of people that don't follow the rules. Now, instead of high jacking this person's thread about their new baby, if you'd like to continue a discussion about smuggling of herps, or respecting other countries boundaries and limitations, feel free to start your own thread.
 
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JMorash

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While I do not support smuggling or poaching at all (actively against it actually). However one thing everyone needs to understand is that the illegal pet trade is an illicit market, one of the only ways, and really the most effective way of combating an illicit market is to create an affordable, responsible, and legal alternative.

Many animals are poached and smuggled for the pet trade. As long as the demand is there the market will be there. Regardless of laws. Now instead of criticizing a person for having that animal (likely they did not go to New Zealand and poach/smuggle it themself) let's promote the discourse the will help this person care for this animals and potentially reproduce this animal so that maybe someday we can build a small captive population. Every captive baby means one less taken from the wild.

We most definitely walk a fine line when purchasing animals we know are likely smuggled. However we can at least hope those animals already taken from the wild end up in responsible hands that will maybe produce them in the future, instead of ending up in some frivolous collector with too much money's hands.

Amazing lizard, show us more pictures please.

Jmorash
 
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