Discuss About temperature for tokay gecko.

[glittery]

hi all,

I keep all my tokay gecko in glass tank. And the temperature is around 33-35 celsius. IS it too hot for tokay?

But when i put tokay inside they eat very little. and keep slim and more slim. And i feel they stressed.

So is it belong to hot enviroment? What can i do now.

Pls give me an advice.

Thanks you.

 

[Marauderhex]

It depends on how large the enclosure is. My hot spot is about 33, but my cool side is only around 26. This temperature gradient allows the gecko to thermoregulate. If your entire enclosure is 33-35, that may be a bit on the warm side. Additionally, if they are appearing stressed, do they have enough clutter in the enclosure to feel secure? Plants, tubes, lots of hides, all of these help the gecko feel safe. You can also cover the sides of the enclosure, so that it acts as one giant hide.

 

[glittery]

It depends on how large the enclosure is. My hot spot is about 33, but my cool side is only around 26. This temperature gradient allows the gecko to thermoregulate. If your entire enclosure is 33-35, that may be a bit on the warm side. Additionally, if they are appearing stressed, do they have enough clutter in the enclosure to feel secure? Plants, tubes, lots of hides, all of these help the gecko feel safe. You can also cover the sides of the enclosure, so that it acts as one giant hide.

Yes. I have some fake tree leaf. some wood for he hide. Some dark area for hide also. But now look he so thin. May be i will force feed for him on next few days.

 

[Marauderhex]

I wouldn't force feed unless it's your last resort. The extra stress on the animal is never good. Try lowering the temps a few degrees and adding electrolytes to his water.

 

[Riverside Reptiles]

Have you had him checked by a veterinarian for parasites or other issues? If he's that thin, it sounds like you really need to seek some professional help for him.

 

[MauricesExoticPets]

Most tokay are wild collected then kept in conditions you and I would cringe at.

Then the trip to whatever country they end up in is along with hundreds of fellow tokay cramped side by side similar to what was done in the slave trading days in the holds of ships.

By the time you get your tokay it may look ok but inside it is a mess.

A simple $5-$20 vet exam conducted on a fresh fecal sample you provide them will show what is going on in your tokay's digestion system parasite wise. Your vet will let you know that the gecko needs to come in to get accurate information to proscribe medications, maybe injectable fluids, and teach you how to assist feed if that is required.

Maurice Pudlo

 

[glittery]

I also know about parasites problem. But until now in my country still dont have vet for reptile yet. So all we check it by ourself.

 

[billewicz]

I agree. If you are not getting your wild caught Tokay checked for parasites, then they could be all sick. This is usually the underlying cause and needs to be addressed first and as soon as possible.

As for temps and humidity, just checkout the Weather Channel for most any part of Indonesia. Right now is the rainy season, so thunderstorms every day with a high of about 28c and a low of 20c. 10 Day Weather Forecast for Bandung - weather.com

That's about 82 degrees F down to 68 degrees F for those reading this State Side. www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Bandung+IDXX0007:1:ID

 

[billewicz]

I also know about parasites problem. But until now in my country still dont have vet for reptile yet. So all we check it by ourself.

A fecal exam can be done by any vet. The meds for treatment are typically the same as well.

 

[Marauderhex]

I'm not sure what kind of vet access they have in Vietnam, but I think the weather should certainly be comparable to Indonesia given it's proximity.

 

[billewicz]

I'm not sure what kind of vet access they have in Vietnam, but I think the weather should certainly be comparable to Indonesia given it's proximity.

Yeah, any vet would work. Livestock, pet, whatever, the process is the same. Smear a slide with a fresh fecal and look for eggs and worm-like, maggot-like bodies under a microscope. (Very, very over simplified.) The typical medicine used is Panicur over several weeks.

If there are flagellants; gelatin, bubbly, smelly goo present. (Again, very over simplified description.) The typical medicine protocol used is Flagyl (Metronidazole).

As to weather. The Indonesian islands are influenced by ocean currents and breezes and are actually a bit cooler than most of the tropical mainland Indochina region. (Same day comparisons across the region.)

That's not to say that his posted temps are too high for Tokay. Tokay do very well in Vietnam as well. And the Indo summer nighttime low temps are about were his high temps are now. So I really do not think temps are the issue.

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Obviously we are guessing and 'playing doctor' here. I think we are all on the same page about the possible parasite load as the culprit.

I post the above information not to supplant an exam. But rather to give an expectation for a possible coarse of action.

 

[MauricesExoticPets]

To think I was the only person who tracked weather in far away lands. Now if there was just a way to program a vivarium controller to mimic hour to hour temps, humidity, rainfall, lighting, I'd be in seventh heaven.

Maurice Pudlo

 

[Marauderhex]

Maurice, you can write a program to control the temp/humidity/etc in your reptile room, but you have to have it all separate from the rest of your house/facility. You basically have a temp probe, and a humidity probe, constantly being sampled by the computer, which is getting hourly weather updates from a specific site of your choosing.

 

[MauricesExoticPets]

Maurice, you can write a program to control the temp/humidity/etc in your reptile room, but you have to have it all separate from the rest of your house/facility. You basically have a temp probe, and a humidity probe, constantly being sampled by the computer, which is getting hourly weather updates from a specific site of your choosing.

More realistically;

Maurice, you can write ...

I lost track of any programming ability when the Apple IIc was no longer the top of the line home computer.

I would ultimately like for local weather data to be stored on a flash drive or SD card, plug it into your vivarium controller, plug in your heat, humidity, misting, fans, whatever and turn the equipment on. At most from there setting a date would get it up and running on a 365 day cycle with leap year being averaged between the day prior and after.

Filling the flash drive or SD card with info could be done via some spreadsheet on your home computer with some interface program.

Light years beyond my ability is everything I just said.

In any case, I think the equipment could be quite small. Just large enough for 6 proportional outlets.

Maurice Pudlo

 

[billewicz]

To think I was the only person who tracked weather in far away lands. Now if there was just a way to program a vivarium controller to mimic hour to hour temps, humidity, rainfall, lighting, I'd be in seventh heaven.

Maurice Pudlo

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm!:biggrin:

 

[MauricesExoticPets]

:idea: do you have an idea?

 

[Riverside Reptiles]

They have similar controllers to what you're talking about for growing plants in greenhouses, etc.

 

[MauricesExoticPets]

Do share.

 

[Marauderhex]

I think for those of us who are "programming impaired" LabView is a good option. One of the people I work with loves it and you program by design, not just strings of code.

 

[billewicz]

:idea: do you have an idea?

No, just musing about a fantasy controller system. Actually The lights stay the same for my Tokay since they are on the Equator, just a rainy season and a dry(er) season with slightly reduced temps.

What I'd really like is an automated trigger for the misting system linked to the local barometer drop just before it rains. I do this manually now. This tends to get the mating behavior into full swing.

Oh, and while we're on misting systems, I'd love a misting head that has a check valve in it that does not fail in 6 to 10 months. I have over 400 heads from two different companies now and I get at least two flooded enclosures a week from failed heads.

:fight::fight::fight::fight::fight:This is the most disruptive issue I have to deal with and I am very frustrated by it.:fight::fight::fight::fight::fight::