My leopard geckos won't breed

[samantha12]

I just got a male RAPTOR a week ago and put him in his own 20 gallon long tank for a few days to settle in. Four days ago I put my diablo blanco female in the enclosure with him to mate. At first, he often rattled his tail at her, but I never saw them mate. Recently, he's been staying far away from her; I never see them sharing a hide. Last night I added my sunglow female to the breeding tank, and he didn't react to her at all. Today the two females are snuggling together in the warm hide, and he's in the moist hide. I read somewhere the females have to be ovulating, but I don't really know how to check for that because they both have pretty thick belly skin and hate being tilted backwards.
My females are 2 and 3 years old and 60-70 grams. The male is over a year and 80 grams. My leopard geckos are for sure sexed correctly. I've checked, double checked, triple checked and the breeder guarenteed it. However, the male was hatched in January of last year, meaning he was bred off season. I read somewhere that geckos hatched off season will only breed offseason. That seems weird to me, because I also read many people breed year-long (I don't plan on doing this), but could that be why he isn't interested in my beautiful girls?
Please help, it's driving me insane. Thank you!

 

[XoVictoryXo]

Maybe they just want to be pets and not breeders? lol

 

[Embrace Calamity]

They might just not be ovulating. Also, even for breeding, I wouldn't suggest keeping three in a tiny little 20 long. I'm not a breeder, but that doesn't sound like a good idea at all.

~Maggot

 

[cricket4u]

Maybe they're retaliating? They're thinking, "there's way too many of us being produced all over, kept in poor conditions, like sardines in a can, left to die." That can really ruin the mood you know.;-)

Samantha12 it's probably for the better.

 

[samantha12]

It's something I've been wanting to do for a long time. I have already started building the hatchling rack. I don't care if I can't sell all the babies or it takes a long time, I just want to go through the experience as a hobbiest, not a breeder and I'm asking for help on this issue, not to be lectured about how there are bad breeders. I've put a lotof time and work and thought and money into this project and id like to go through a season of breeding.

 

[Embrace Calamity]

It's something I've been wanting to do for a long time. I have already started building the hatchling rack. I don't care if I can't sell all the babies or it takes a long time, I just want to go through the experience as a hobbiest, not a breeder and I'm asking for help on this issue, not to be lectured about how there are bad breeders. I've put a lotof time and work and thought and money into this project and id like to go through a season of breeding.

She wasn't necessarily criticising breeders; she was criticising owners in general. Let's face it: most leos die. Also, not to be snippy, but you did put three adult leos in a tiny little 20 long.

~Maggot

 

[Amuna1225]

I'm not trying to be the jerk here, but I will express my thoughts.
I've been on this forum for less than a week and have been browsing for months, and I can tell that there are certain people on here who are real jerks to others.

This thread is a great example. She wants to breed her geckos, help her do it properly, don't tell her not to do it.

I feel like there are a few people on here that think "What i say goes, you need to do this this way and you need to do this this way or you're a bad owner and you dont deserve to have your gecko/s.

Can you guys maybe focus on just helping the people who come here for advice instead of bashing and criticizing them?

 

[Embrace Calamity]

I'm not trying to be the jerk here, but I will express my thoughts.
I've been on this forum for less than a week and have been browsing for months, and I can tell that there are certain people on here who are real jerks to others.

This thread is a great example. She wants to breed her geckos, help her do it properly, don't tell her not to do it.

I feel like there are a few people on here that think "What i say goes, you need to do this this way and you need to do this this way or you're a bad owner and you dont deserve to have your gecko/s.

Can you guys maybe focus on just helping the people who come here for advice instead of bashing and criticizing them?

Ideas were given about why it's not happening, and no one told her not to do it. I'm not sure what thread you're reading, but it's a different one from the one I'm reading. Furthermore, you've done nothing but ignore and argue with all advice given to you, even with actual evidence, so you have no right to complain about people not being nice enough to you.

~Maggot

 

[Amuna1225]

Ideas were given about why it's not happening, and no one told her not to do it. I'm not sure what thread you're reading, but it's a different one from the one I'm reading. Furthermore, you've done nothing but ignore and argue with all advice given to you, even with actual evidence, so you have no right to complain about people not being nice enough to you.

~Maggot

Disagree 100% Have made almost all the changes you have suggested to me and for Sparty. Went out and bought a digital thermometer, Got the new multivitamin instead of using the Zilla spray on, added a new hide, and finally got Sparty to eat crickets.

 

[Embrace Calamity]

Disagree 100% Have made almost all the changes you have suggested to me and for Sparty. Went out and bought a digital thermometer, Got the new multivitamin instead of using the Zilla spray on, added a new hide, and finally got Sparty to eat crickets.

Oh, so you just argued. Well, that's a load off my mind.

Regardless, no one's telling OP not to breed, and the fact that it's out of the normal season for breeding is probably why they aren't (as was said previously). Furthermore, putting three of them in a 20 long probably stressed them out a lot, which could also reduce their desire to breed (if there was any, which it sounds like there wasn't anyway).

~Maggot

 

[Amuna1225]

Oh, so you just argued. Well, that's a load off my mind.

Regardless, no one's telling OP not to breed, and the fact that it's out of the normal season for breeding is probably why they aren't (as was said previously). Furthermore, putting three of them in a 20 long probably stressed them out a lot, which could also reduce their desire to breed (if there was any, which it sounds like there wasn't anyway).

~Maggot

Breeding is something I would like to explore with too after a couple of years or so. As for season, I was curious what their normal season is and when they ovulate?

 

[jeninak]

Maby they need more room?? Try a longer tank. That might help. I heard that if you stress "it" wont happen. lol Give them time. Maby the timing is just not right?

 

[samantha12]

She wasn't necessarily criticising breeders; she was criticising owners in general. Let's face it: most leos die. Also, not to be snippy, but you did put three adult leos in a tiny little 20 long.

~Maggot

The reason I put them in the 20 long is because I plan on housing the male in there and I just wanted the females in for a couple days to breed. I didn't want the male in my 40 gallon because I have a smaller female in there who I'm not going to breed. They're in the 40 gallon breeder now and the small female is in the 20 gallon, but it has only seemed to give the male more space to hide in, and the move has clearly stressed him out.

 

[samantha12]

Oh, so you just argued. Well, that's a load off my mind.

Regardless, no one's telling OP not to breed, and the fact that it's out of the normal season for breeding is probably why they aren't (as was said previously). Furthermore, putting three of them in a 20 long probably stressed them out a lot, which could also reduce their desire to breed (if there was any, which it sounds like there wasn't anyway).

~Maggot

Right now is the normal breeding season...? I had said in my post that my male was hatched out of the breeding season, but no body said anything more about it. And I originally had just 2 of them in the 20 gallon and there was no difference when I added the 3rd Monday night. Regardless, I have changed the tank and it has not helped.

 

[Embrace Calamity]

Right now is the normal breeding season...? I had said in my post that my male was hatched out of the breeding season, but no body said anything more about it. And I originally had just 2 of them in the 20 gallon and there was no difference when I added the 3rd Monday night. Regardless, I have changed the tank and it has not helped.

You can't logically try at the very, very beginning of the season that's long enough to last most of the year in a too-small enclosure and then be all surprised when it doesn't happen. As was stated in post maybe #3, the females probably just aren't ovulating yet.

~Maggot

 

[samantha12]

You can't logically try at the very, very beginning of the season that's long enough to last most of the year in a too-small enclosure and then be all surprised when it doesn't happen. As was stated in post maybe #3, the females probably just aren't ovulating yet.

~Maggot

I'm not sure why you are being so rude... This was an honest question. The three geckos were only together for a day and a half. There was no change in behavior when I added the third gecko to the 20 gallon and there's been no change since I moved them to the 40 gallon. I have kept leopard geckos for years, but never bred which is why I thought I'd asked more experienced people so that I do it right. I don't think I deserve the attitude and condescending posts. Thank you.

 

[Embrace Calamity]

I'm not sure why you are being so rude... This was an honest question. The three geckos were only together for a day and a half. There was no change in behavior when I added the third gecko to the 20 gallon and there's been no change since I moved them to the 40 gallon. I have kept leopard geckos for years, but never bred which is why I thought I'd asked more experienced people so that I do it right. I don't think I deserve the attitude and condescending posts. Thank you.

No one is being rude. If you're taking it that way, that's on you, not me. You're asking why they won't breed, and you were given a few answers back on the first page. I'm not sure how telling you that you shouldn't be surprised it hasn't happened yet given that the enclosure is too small and the season has barely started is "rude" or an insult in any way, but I'll be sure to keep in mind that, next time, I'll need to give you candy when I respond.

~Maggot