Leopard gecko receding lip

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Crotalid

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Hi, can anyone shed some light on what may be the problem here? Her lip is slightly turned up as you can see, and the row of teeth has been misaligned by the looks of it. I took her to the vet about 2 months ago, he gave her a course of Baytril in case it was an infection. Didn't change anything.

I'm due to take her back again tomorrow, but i don't really want to put her on another course of Baytril as i've heard it's hard on them internally and can cause bleeding (not sure if this is entirely true).

Any suggestions? It's not stuck shed, i've tried rubbing there with a damp cotton wool bud and nothing comes away. Besides, when she sheds it always come off that area perfectly, as i do the shedding for her due to her eyes.

If you're wondering about her eyes, she was born like that :( Was my first reptile, i was none the wiser, and didn't spot it when she was a baby. Her right eye is much worse than her left, but hoping to get her an operation to get the excess skin taken away!

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That's her eye when she hasn't got a bright light shining into it!
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XoVictoryXo

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does she have trouble eating? poor babe!
I am not an expert by a long shot, but is it possible it could just be a birth defect similar to her eye and you recently just noticed it?? or is it just starting to happen recently
 

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Crotalid ~

Just to make sure you are doing the best possible with your leo, please complete this questionnaire.

How does the inside of her mouth look? Why did the vet give Baytril?

#50---Cricket4u's Gecko Health Questionnaire
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General Information
Species of lizard:
Gecko's name:
Morph:
Gender:
Age:
Weight:
Total length:
Length of your reptile when you first acquired it:
Source (pet store, breeder, previous owner):
Captive bred or wild caught:

Vivarium
Enclosure dimensions (length x width x heighth):
Cage (type, size):
Substrate provided:
Types of hiding places provided:
Is there a humidity hide? location?
Please describe any other furnishings:
List recent changes in the environment, if any:

Lighting
Artificial lighting
Incandescent (“screw-in” bulbs): wattage(s):
Fluorescent (tube bulbs):

Natural lighting
Access to ambient daylight from a distant window:

Heating
Do you have a thermometer(s) in the cage?
What type and brand of thermometer (digital with probe, temperature gun, LCD strip, analog (circle), combo digital thermometer/hygrometer, stainless steel aquarim type, other):
What is the ground temperature right on the substrate under the warm dry hide:
What is the air temperature on the warm end about 4 inches up from the ground:
What is the air temperature on the cool end about 4 inches up from the ground:
What device(s) are used to heat the tank (Under Tank Heater, heat light, ceramic heat emitter, Flexwatt heat tape, hot rock, other):
Ventilation space for your UTH by elevating the tank above the shelf (some UTHs come with sticky feet for the tank corners):
Are you using a thermostat(s)?
Which hide does she/he spend most of her time?
Is the temperature decreased at night? by how much?

Humidity
Is the humidity measured?
Humidity range:

Diet
Insects and worms, list type:
Regular diet fed to the insects and worms:
Are the insects and worms formally “gutloaded” 1-2 days prior to feeding off to your gecko? If so with?
How often do you feed your gecko?
Please list any supplements (with brand names) used. How are they given and how often?
What calcium brand are you using? with D3, without or both?
Is the calcium in the tank with D3 or without?
Multivitamins (include brand name)?
Please list any recent additions/changes in the diet:

General Health
If your gecko is sick, please describe the signs and how long your gecko has been showing these signs:
Is your gecko’s general activity level normal, decreased, or increased?
Is your gecko’s appetite normal, decreased, or increased?
Have you noticed any of the following?
Weight (loss or gain):
Discharge from the eyes or nose:
Increased breathing rate or effort:
Change in the droppings:
Urates
---white or yellowish:
---size of urates as compared to size of feces:
Abnormal skin color or shedding:
Parasites on the skin or in the feces:
Weakness:

Previous problems and/or illnesses:

Other Critters in Same Cage or in Household
List other animals that are kept in the same cage:
Recent acquisitions (new pets within the past 6 months):
Are any of your other pets ill?

Please include pictures of your gecko, the habitat, and particular issues (eye abcesses ?). If the problem involves gait, a video will be helpful. Many thanks.
 
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Crotalid

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Whoops, just in case anyone thought i was on about the bottom lip, I'm not. I was just pulling that down, so it would expose her top lip without my fat fingers being in the way lol. If you look closely at the top lip it isn't straight (it's pulls up, then goes back down a little and pulls up again), and the row of teeth isn't straight like the other side.

does she have trouble eating? poor babe!
I am not an expert by a long shot, but is it possible it could just be a birth defect similar to her eye and you recently just noticed it?? or is it just starting to happen recently

Yeah she can't eat for herself poor little thing, but I've been hand feeding her for two years :) Definitely not a birth defect, as it only happened about 3 months ago.

Crotalid ~

Just to make sure you are doing the best possible with your leo, please complete this questionnaire.

How does the inside of her mouth look? Why did the vet give Baytril?

Inside of the mouth is perfect, like a normal Leo's should be. He gave baytril jut in case it was infected as it was hard to tell if there was swelling in the gum causing the shape to be distorted.

#50---Cricket4u's Gecko Health Questionnaire
GU members: When copying & pasting this questionnaire into your thread, please change only the answers of your reply font to boldface to make your replies easy to read. Don't know whether that is possible. Don't really want the entire reply bold.

General Information
Species of lizard: Leo
Gecko's name:Randall
Morph:Hypo
Gender: Female
Age:2 years in May
Weight:60g
Total length: 5.5 inches
Length of your reptile when you first acquired it: na (baby)
Source (pet store, breeder, previous owner):breeder
Captive bred or wild caught:CB

Vivarium
Enclosure dimensions (length x width x heighth):2ftx2x2
Substrate provided: Lino
Types of hiding places provided: 3 normal, 1 humid

Lighting: None apart from a nice day/night natural cycle, room gets a lot of sunlight coming in

Heating
Do you have a thermometer(s) in the cage?Yes
What type and brand of thermometer (digital with probe, temperature gun, LCD strip, analog (circle), combo digital thermometer/hygrometer, stainless steel aquarim type, other): Exo Terra Digital
What is the ground temperature right on the substrate under the warm dry hide: 33-34degC
What is the air temperature on the cool end about 4 inches up from the ground: 25degC
What device(s) are used to heat the tank (Under Tank Heater, heat light, ceramic heat emitter, Flexwatt heat tape, hot rock, other): UTH
Are you using a thermostat(s)?Yes
Which hide does she/he spend most of her time?She moves quite a lot, always has done since she was a baby. She alternates between two mostly during the day. Although she sleeps outside quite a lot too.
Is the temperature decreased at night? by how much?No.

Humidity
Is the humidity measured? No
Humidity range: Normal household Humidity, so probably 40-50%

Diet
Insects and worms, list type: Mainly mealworms
Regular diet fed to the insects and worms:Lettuce, Carrots and Bread
How often do you feed your gecko? Every 2 or 3 days. She puts on weight easily.
Please list any supplements (with brand names) used. How are they given and how often?Nutrobol once a week dusted on mealies, and calcium bowl in tank
What calcium brand are you using? with D3, without or both? Pro rep
Is the calcium in the tank with D3 or without?without

General Health
If your gecko is sick, please describe the signs and how long your gecko has been showing these signs:
Is your gecko’s general activity level normal, decreased, or increased? Normal
Is your gecko’s appetite normal, decreased, or increased? Normal
Have you noticed any of the following?
Weight (loss or gain): No
Discharge from the eyes or nose:No
Increased breathing rate or effort:No
Change in the droppings:
All the same as the past two years
Weakness:
Nope
Previous problems and/or illnesses:
Parasites when she was a baby

Other Critters in Same Cage or in Household:3 other Leo's, 2 Gaboon Vipers, 2 Arizona Black rattlesnakes, 1 Baja rattlesnake, 2 Malayan Pit vipers, 2 White Lip pit vipers and 1 Indo Chinese spitting cobra
List other animals that are kept in the same cage:none
Are any of your other pets ill? No.
 
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