Phelsuma quadriocellata quadriocellata

[Yann]

Hi
I have been keeping these for 2 and half years, but after 6 months or less I lost the male.
My female was left alone for 2 years.

A few weeks ago, a friend of mine brought me his 3 years old male to go along with my female

The cohabitation is doing great and many mating has happened

Here is the male

cheers
Yann

 

[daggekko]

Very nice! For a while there I thought all you had was P. robertmertensi! :biggrin:

 

[Yann]

Hello

@Adam: actually I had P. quadriocellata for a longer time than robertmertensi!! ^^

So first egg hatched!!!
My very first young for that species, which makes me very happy
I have another egg incubating from 2nd batch, unfortunately the second egg was broken!!

The little baby several hours after his birth

The proud father

Cheers
Yann

 

[Yann]

A picture of the male

and the female while she was laying eggs

cheers
Yann

 

[Pirarucu]

Very nice! Did you run a necropsy on the first male? Do you have any pictures of the full cage?

 

[Viridovipera]

Nice pictures and congrats on the success! Could you post a picture of the cage? Im currently setting up a cage for my pair to put them together, so it would be cool to see what a working concept looks like

 

[Pirarucu]

Viridovipera, I posted some of mine a few days ago, if you would like to look at mine too. Keep in mind it is still a work in progress.

http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...7-pea-day-geckos-phelsuma-quadriocellata.html

 

[Yann]

Hello!!

Nope I did not run any necropsy of the first male.
I haven't forgot about the pictures of the cage, I shall upload them
Otherwise impress by the egg laying frequence, very prolific species

My breeding male:

Eggs laying female:

1st shed of one of the young:

cheers
Yann

 

[Viridovipera]

Great pictures. Good to see you are having success with them. How is the sex ratio of your hatchlings? I just put my male in with the female. Hopefully they get along and I can get some babies soon

 

[Yann]

HI!!
Many thanks!! So far many seems to be males!!
Still need to find the correct temperature to have a good sex ratio!!
Hope you ll have good success with them!! You can expect eggs pretty soon...within 5 weeks I guess!!
All the best
Cheers

 

[Viridovipera]

Thats great to hear. I have been reading a lot about people having problems with a very female-heavy hatch rate. What temps / setup do you have for the incubation? I am considering leaving the first couple of clutches, if I get any, with the parents. Would be awesome if they would hatch in their cage. Are you having any problems raising the babies? Someone told me that they were pretty difficult to raise and that I should expect large losses. But this does not seem to be the general online-consensus

 

[Yann]

Oh really!!

Well it looks like I keep getting male with my Phelsuma, both quadriocellata and robertmertensi.
Incubator is set at 28.8 °C. I had clutch that hatched in the parents tank and it all went well, despite colder temp than in the incubator.

The main problem one can have with the youngs is their fighting behaviour, while I can raise 2 young robertmertensi together for a couple of month together without any problem , this is very difficult with quadriocellata. They are highly territorial and the dominant young will go after the weakest one all the time, already after a couple of days old. They do much better when raised alone. Otherwise absolutely no problem raising them, they are eating well and very active and agile young. The only one I have lost so far are eggs that have not hatched...I lost 2 youngs like that.

 

[Viridovipera]

Wow. That is really remarkable. Hopefully I will be just as lucky with mine, if I get any eggs. I searched for almost 2 years to find a male. Thats also why I was so anxious about introducing them. If they didnt like each other it would be hard to find other males.

Thanks for the info on the young as well. I will make sure to set up individual cages for them as soon as I see any signs of eggs. Hopefully it will work out with plastic containers with drosophila-mesh for ventilation.

 

[Pirarucu]

P. quadriocellata (from what I've read) are one of the species in which sex is determined by incubation temperatures, higher temperatures make males and cooler temperatures leave them as females.

 

[Yann]

Hi!!

That is exactly the type of setup I have for rearing young.

@Pirarucu: I had them at room temp at first, which was 22-26° depending of the day...still ending up with males. Which really question myself on where is the limit and at what time during the whole incubation process the sex is determined.

Cheers
Yann

 

[Yann]

Hello!!

I had 2 new hatchling lately!!
The occasion to shoot more pictures!!

The male at shedding time!!

The second young at hathing time.
I took pieces of shell to show him better still inside

the young eating his first shed shortly after hatchling

cheers
Yann

 

[Yann]

Hello!!

a few pics of a young:

Hatch during the day

cheers
Yann

 

[mkschaefer]

Those are great pictures, my friend! Congratulations!

 

[Yann]

a little update on the young (the bigger) pictured before

a little girl...she is doing great!!

cheers

 

[mkschaefer]

Nice animal, great pictures!