I made some Tokay hide / nesting boxes. Pics -

getula72

New member
I have thought about making some hides for my Tokay Geckos for quite awhile but just did not know how I was going to go about it or what a hide for these geckos should look like. I knew that I wanted to make something with many entry and exit holes and also with slats or louvers for the geckos to cling to inside the box.

So, on Saturday I made two boxes and they are both different. The smaller box is for a 12″ x 12″ x 18″ vertically oriented cage and has staggered slats inside it for the geckos to climb on and around – and for them to cling to while they are sleeping.

This picture below shows the box after I made the cuts and before I assembled it.
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The next pic shows it with the top on and a hinge attached. This is really a flaw in this design because I will not be able to lift the top completely up and over in an 18″ cage, I think. I could not put the hinge on the back because the 45 degree angle of the cut means that the screws for the hinge will pierce the front/top side of the wood and show through. I’ll have to figure out a solution for the next boxes; probably a shallower angle for the roof.
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Below is a picture of the box with the top open.
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The front of the box does not have the traditional, round birdhouse opening. I made it a full opening to simulate a crack that a wild Tokay might slip through while running around on a shed or barn in the wild. I also painted the roof with flat black to absorb the heat from the overhead heat bulb I provide for them and I coated the outside sides and back with semigloss polyurethane. A picture of that is below.
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I also made a much larger box with a different design. This one has a lift up roof and removable louvers inside for the Tokays to hide on and in.

First I used my table saw to cut the 3/4″ pine boards and I also had to use the table saw to make the 45 degree miter cuts because the span was too great for my miter saw. Then I drew out the dados for each side, giving a 1 -1/2″ space between each louver and I drew the stop point so I would not over-cut with my router.
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Then I cut the dados, freehand, with my router -
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Next I fitted the sides to the back with screws and started adding the louvers, which I cut from 1/4″ pine plywood.
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I used my drill and a 2″ hole saw to make the openings for the geckos to come in and out.
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Then I painted the top of the roof and I sealed the outside sides and back with multiple coats of semigloss polyurethane. I have found that unfinished pine will soak in a few coats of poly before you can tell it is there. I know it’s there but you just can’t tell until you put four or five coats on it.
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And below are some more clear shots into the front of the big box, showing the louvers on and in which I hope the Tokays will hide and lay eggs.
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Below are some pics of both boxes, complete, and waiting for the paint and poly to cure so I can add them to the cages (to be continued).
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Riverside Reptiles

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As I said in the FB group, this is a very interesting idea. I'll be interested in seeing the results.
Thanks for posting them up in here and please keep us updated.
Ethan
 

billewicz

New member
Lots of fun I see.

So, I have a couple of thoughts. First, making sure the wood is as impervious to moisture as possible.

Since Tokay really like to sit vertically on surfaces, either head up, or when hunting, head down, I think the inner slats in the second box should do the same. Almost as if you turned the box on it's side, and then made it taller.

You could almost leave the top off of the first one. This would allow an easy out for a cornered Tokay. Either a female during breeding or hatchling if you choose to leave them in the enclosure. I'm assuming you might because these would become prime egg laying sites.
 

getula72

New member
Mike, Good points. I think, hindsight being 20/20, that on the big box I deployed I could have cut the front panel in half so they could run in and out of it easier -- and I could have removed the part of the roof not over the louvers.

I have some ideas on how to make the next round of these. Stay tuned.

In the meantime, they are using it. Look close -

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getula72

New member
The house is in use, and more -

I checked this house, which houses my 'pair no. 2' and there is at least one clutch of eggs - and it is glued to the back louver: so I could remove it. I left it alone and closed the lid. Going to try and keep from disturbing them. Here is a pic of the male on the 'house'.
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I made a new, big (21" deep x 23" wide x 31" high") cage for 'pair no. 1' this past week and I made some interesting hides for them. I did not want to rely on tiles leaning against the wall - or - logs leaning on the walls. So... I made some smaller hides each with an internal partition and no floor. I think they turned out well.

Hides
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Hide no. 1, closeup
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Hide no. 1, view from underneath
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Hide no. 2, view from underneath
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I went to move the pair and I looked HIGH AND LOW with a flashlight for eggs -- because he has been calling nightly for awhile and I figured they have been breeding. I did not want to move them if they have started producing. Of course, I found a clutch when I moved them.
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The male was extremely angry about all of this and managed to open up one of my fingers. I put him down, he had won 'round 1' and I got a snake bag to put over him. Here he is with no furniture. He is a very, very big boy.
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...and he was still mad after he got placed in the penthouse suite of Tokay Gecko cages...
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And here is the female (flash)
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Female, no flash -
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She has extremely good weight. She may be gravid again in this picture...?

And - here they are in the new house!
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I just checked them and momma is already looking out for her eggs. I sure hope she knows they belong to her.
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getula72

New member
My female Tokay from Pair No. 1 is settling in comfortably in her new enclosure. I have never before seen her in full view in the day time – and I have had her for about a year. She must feel pretty secure.

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