Elizabeth Freer
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Last night my female Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus dug a hole underneath a hide and laid 2 eggs. I'm hoping these are good!!! 
E-g-g-s!
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Dactylusfan
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Awesome Elizabeth! Keep us posted!
Elizabeth Freer
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I am a newbie here for real!
Does anyone know whether Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus usually bury their eggs? The female left these 2 eggs in an inch deep hole, but uncovered.
Does anyone know whether Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus usually bury their eggs? The female left these 2 eggs in an inch deep hole, but uncovered.
Dactylusfan
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I kept C.p.zebraicus years ago, and found eggs both buried, un-buried and under cover.
Elizabeth Freer
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18 June 2015:
Both eggs are looking nice and round! :banana: In order to keep the RH more constant as well as the temperatures I moved them to an incubator set for 25*C (77*F). The temperatures will fluctuate some based upon room temperatures. I did not wish them to get too cool at night.
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Lowered the temperature setting to 24*C (75*F)
Both eggs are looking nice and round! :banana: In order to keep the RH more constant as well as the temperatures I moved them to an incubator set for 25*C (77*F). The temperatures will fluctuate some based upon room temperatures. I did not wish them to get too cool at night.
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Lowered the temperature setting to 24*C (75*F)
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Dactylusfan
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Cool is way better than hot. A nighttime drop to 65ºF would not hurt them, just prolong the incubation period a little. Keep them humid and dry. They mold very easily if allowed to get wet. Just to allow yourself a little room for temperature fluctuation I would recommend keeping them at 75ºF. If your thermostat is a little off and it climbs to 80ºF you could lose the eggs. At 75ºF they should hatch within 90-120 days, but I had eggs go a lot longer, probably due to a nighttime drop in temp. Good luck! Keep us posted. As I stated before I would love to get another group of C.p.zebraicus in the future if your group does well! Glad to see there are people still working with them.
Elizabeth Freer
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Based upon your recommendations I will tweak things a tad. Appreciate the advice to keep the eggs dry, yet humid. Since June 18 both eggs have been sitting on top of seramis in bottle caps. Perhaps I should move them to dry seramis? (The seramis had been boiled prior to placing the eggs upon it.)
Both bottle caps sit on a ~4 cm deep bed of seramis inside a ventilated plastic box (inside a 2.5 gallon tank) with a digital's probe inside the plastic box. Water droplets are evident inside the plastic box.
The eggs "look" OK right now.
Thanks to the knowledgeable sharing of experiences like yours newbies don't need to start at Ground Zero.
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Dactylusfan
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My first experience hatching peguensis was by pure accident. I had purchased a group of 2.6 and had, what I thought was, three females in one enclosure, and the other three in a separate enclosure. I kept the males in individual enclosures. I wanted to allow the females to put on a little weight before trying to breed them. After about six months I was cleaning one of the cages and found a hatchling in the females' cage. after digging around in the substrate, which was very similar to the ABG mix that Josh's Frogs sells, I found the hatched egg and another that had not hatched yet. It eventually hatched after two days in a deli cup with damp perlite. I soon figured out that I had an extra male in the females' enclosure, so in fact I had 3.5. Later I would find more eggs and put them on dry perlite in a lid surrounded by moist sphagnum moss in a large deli container. I would keep them in a cool closet in my house that typically stayed around 75ºF. I also found out the hard way that they won't live for even the briefest exposure to temps over 80ºF. I was going to trade a juvenile pair with a friend and had them in a deli container, which I placed in a lunch cooler. It was a very warm day, so I started my car and had the A/C going. I picked my friend up and he pulled them out to look at them while still in the car. He sat them back in the cooler, but did not close the top. I dropped him off at his home and told him to take the cooler with him. Soon after returning home he called to tell me that they were both dead. I think the brief time out of the cooler and keeping the cooler open did them in. So be very cautious of too warm of temps!
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Elizabeth Freer
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My male sounds just like this:
Watch as he then reacts to the recording of his own voice. :biggrin:
~~~thanks to jaona2
Watch as he then reacts to the recording of his own voice. :biggrin:
~~~thanks to jaona2
Dactylusfan
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Yeah, I really miss hearing them call. The females respond as well, just not as loudly.
Elizabeth Freer
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+ 2 more eggs on 23 July 2015
Ms. C. p. zebraicus has just laid her second pair of fertile eggs! She buried these and presently stands watch. :biggrin:
Ms. C. p. zebraicus has just laid her second pair of fertile eggs! She buried these and presently stands watch. :biggrin:
Elizabeth Freer
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/\ Thanks, Tamara, I'm really excited about these eggs too.
Yesterday I dug out the second two eggs and placed them in an incubator especially to keep the humidity more constant.
Yesterday I dug out the second two eggs and placed them in an incubator especially to keep the humidity more constant.
Tamara
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Great, we don't use a incubator for our Cyrtodactylus eggs but keep the container with the eggs in the enclosure with the parent's, could take them a little longer to hatch but works fine as well.
No special reason for it though other then saving space.., we used to use the incubators for them too but now they are all filled to the top with Strophurus eggs.
No special reason for it though other then saving space.., we used to use the incubators for them too but now they are all filled to the top with Strophurus eggs.
Elizabeth Freer
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Great, we don't use a incubator for our Cyrtodactylus eggs but keep the container with the eggs in the enclosure with the parent's, could take them a little longer to hatch but works fine as well.
No special reason for it though other then saving space.., we used to use the incubators for them too but now they are all filled to the top with Strophurus eggs.
:biggrin: Sounds like m-a-n-y eggs!
Have you guys had any trouble with humidity when keeping the egg container inside the parent's enclosure?
How many days to hatching that way?
Do you keep your Cyrtodactylus pairs together year round?
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Tamara
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Haven't had problems with the humidity, but we use seramis (something like repashy superhatch) as a medium so we can see when it's getting too dry.., the eggs are placed on dry peat in bottlecaps , lifted from the wett medium , with 2 tiny pinholes in the container for airflow.
The first clutch we incubated that way took 146 days, the following clutches all where somewhere between 100-120 days, but she lays them where she likes, so sometimes we miss a clutch for a few days before we find it.
One time, we only found one egg and a few days after it hatched we spotted a hatchling loose in the enclosure so we must have missed the other one, the young however was hiding between both his parents and the father bit Kevin when he was trying to catch it...
So, atleast that time, the parents also showed signs of caring for their young, but we don't feel confident enough abouth that to try and leave the eggs with them, as i don't think parental care is something typical for most Cyrtodactylus species.
Yes, we keep them together during the year but ours are not the most prolific breeders, they produce around 4-5 clutches a year so it isn't that hard on the female.., she also eats snails and always has good filled endolymphatic sacs so we don't worry abouth her as much as we do with some of our other species.
If she would produce more clutches it be harder on her and we would seperate them as well.
The first clutch we incubated that way took 146 days, the following clutches all where somewhere between 100-120 days, but she lays them where she likes, so sometimes we miss a clutch for a few days before we find it.
One time, we only found one egg and a few days after it hatched we spotted a hatchling loose in the enclosure so we must have missed the other one, the young however was hiding between both his parents and the father bit Kevin when he was trying to catch it...
So, atleast that time, the parents also showed signs of caring for their young, but we don't feel confident enough abouth that to try and leave the eggs with them, as i don't think parental care is something typical for most Cyrtodactylus species.
Yes, we keep them together during the year but ours are not the most prolific breeders, they produce around 4-5 clutches a year so it isn't that hard on the female.., she also eats snails and always has good filled endolymphatic sacs so we don't worry abouth her as much as we do with some of our other species.
If she would produce more clutches it be harder on her and we would seperate them as well.
CrestedRick
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Didn't species but my female crested laid eggs in the viv and they hatched out inside. I would have incubated them but I didn't find them until they were on the glass lol.
Elizabeth Freer
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Tamara ~
Seramis is great! I'm lucky! :banana: I have some from a stateside geckophile and even more from a friend in Europe! As far as I know, seramis is not available in the USA. Humidity fluctuates widely, so I appreciate being able to see those little bubbles on the insides of the plastic egg boxes.
I placed each of the 4 eggs in bottle caps filled with a little seramis. Those bottle caps sit on top of the bed of seramis in the egg box.
For my Oedura castelnaui eggs, I just made little indentations in the seramis, no separate bottle caps.
I don't have A/C. My upstairs gecko room/bedroom gets over 80*F at times, though usually not by much. I figure the adults would be more tolerant of that than the eggs.
Are these hatching times for your Cyrtodactylus pubisulcus or have you other Cyrtodactylus: 100-146 days?
Just picked up my first land snails on Tuesday. Will finish setting them up later today. These are about 1 inch diameter adults. I will wait until they lay eggs and then place the egg masses in a different container. Don't know how long the snail eggs will take to hatch.
Seramis is great! I'm lucky! :banana: I have some from a stateside geckophile and even more from a friend in Europe! As far as I know, seramis is not available in the USA. Humidity fluctuates widely, so I appreciate being able to see those little bubbles on the insides of the plastic egg boxes.
I placed each of the 4 eggs in bottle caps filled with a little seramis. Those bottle caps sit on top of the bed of seramis in the egg box.
For my Oedura castelnaui eggs, I just made little indentations in the seramis, no separate bottle caps.
I don't have A/C. My upstairs gecko room/bedroom gets over 80*F at times, though usually not by much. I figure the adults would be more tolerant of that than the eggs.
Are these hatching times for your Cyrtodactylus pubisulcus or have you other Cyrtodactylus: 100-146 days?
Just picked up my first land snails on Tuesday. Will finish setting them up later today. These are about 1 inch diameter adults. I will wait until they lay eggs and then place the egg masses in a different container. Don't know how long the snail eggs will take to hatch.
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