Gecko just passed, worms in poo during autopsy...but was that actually the problem?

Stellarreality

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When I autopsied the crestie I noticed it was impacted with food, and it had little white worms in with black heads. The worms were probably 2mm long, and the head was barely noticeably black; as in the only reason I could probably see it with the naked eye is because I have extremely good eyesight.

Now this is where it becomes a toss up as to whether or not that was the actual problem.

The crestie that had died choked on some water and I think inhaled some, I head gagging in the cage and when I turned around I saw it shaking it's head and spitting up water. I thought nothing of it. Not to mention I put some multivit powder in the cage a little before the water incident and noticed the crestie had ate an unreasonable amount of dry powder, and this is what I believe caused the impaction...I won't be doing that again.

Fast forward a week or so, I noticed it became lethargic and dropped a lot of weight; and was constantly acting like it was trying to spit stuff up, and when breathing it was shallow and it would occasionally take a huge gulp of air through the mouth, breath shallow for a few minutes and then another huge gulp.

About a day before he died I noticed he had clicking when he breathing....

I'm guessing the inhaled water, eating the multivit, and my accidental drop of the temps to about 65~ish degrees for a couple days all culminated. First causing a minor RI from the water and temp drop, then the impaction caused the worms to breed out of control in the impacted area.

The crestie that was in the cage with him is extremely healthy still, and steadily gaining weight+size.

What I really want to know is if the worms he had are symbiotic and only caused a problem because of impaction, because before all this he was perfectly fine; eating normally, solid poops and plenty of energy.

The one that was in the cage with him is now what I'm worried about. I have all the cage decorations soaking in a light bleach solution in very hot water in my bathtub, and I am wiping the cage itself down now.

Any thoughts?
 

Yoshi'smom

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The clicking with breathing definitely sounds like a respiratory issue which was probably caused by the water in the lungs and drop in temps.
I would definitely disinfect everything in the tank and rinse it all really well and then repeat the process. I would have a fecal exam done by a reptile vet as well. I'm worried the other little one may have the worms too.
I personally have never experienced RI or worms in any of my reptiles.
I've had RI in rats in the past but the RI they have is rodent specific and is non-communicable to other non-rodent species.
 

Stellarreality

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I really don't have the money to get a fecal float done, and then the meds on top of that afterwards. These worms were large enough to see with the naked eye. I'm just gonna disinfect everything and then house my other one on paper towels for the time being and just check and see if any of her poos have worms.

If she does, perhaps I can convince my grandmother to give me the money to save her. I don't even know how the other one got worms, unless it came from the pet store with em; but being large enough I figured they store would have noticed and treated it if that was the case.
 

DiscoverLight

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Pet stores usually don't give a shit considering any type of illness unless it's very very obvious, and parasites are not.

Theres cheap dewormers online for reptiles in teeny drop doses, I've cured my reptiles of parasites for less than 15$.

Respiratory infections can also be cured through non-prescription medication and increased heat during their time of healing. Or cold depending on the species. How is your humidity during the day and night? How often do you spray?
 
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Stellarreality

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Ahh I wasn't aware you could get de-wormers online. I know what you mean about pet stores not giving a shit but thankfully for me the petco I frequent does, the employees who work in the reptile area are true enthusiasts who have actually recommended breeders before, namely for tokays.

I only spray once a day, right before night. The humidity stays at 50% except for right after I spray, it reaches about 80% and drops down to 50% within hours. I've never made any attempt to alter the humidity considering I've read 50% is fine, and they have never had stuck sheds...the sheds are always perfect.

The entire fiasco just stumped me...

Perhaps my healthy gecko was bullying the one that passed, causing it to not eat. Then when I put in the multi-vit powder it saw it as an opportunity to finally eat, and being so hungry ate enough powder to absorb any water in it's stomach turning it into extremely thick paste and causing impaction...and the lack of strength perhaps caused it to have difficulty swallowing making it choke and inhale water?

It all happened so fast, I honestly don't think I would have been able to help it even with de-wormers....

When I noticed the lethargy and weight drop I did Quarantine it to a slightly warmer tank, but he was not kicking back at all...and gradually faded into gecko heaven.
 
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