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[Seth9999]

Originally Posted by Seth9999
Hello, thank you for all info. It seems I've been making lot mistakes with Cecil, year old 100 gram, 9inch geco. My Boy.
I just joined this forum few days ago. Thought I was cruising with all his accommodations . Finely. Im not. Bigger the area , more complicated it gets. For me any way
. He's in 4' by 20 " I built. The bottom is wood and one side , back is wood, rest is plexiglass. It has two floors to accommodate the uth. I plane on adjusting his floor heating this weekend, cover bit more.. A heat grid is ideal, but my boy loves cold side and cold floor . It's been pain get heat right. Day time he chooses a warm moist hide, but bottom sets off ground. Heat that up , I have heat rest up around that area high.air temperature. 88. The dry warm hide sets next to it, it's sets on floor, no bottom. To keep one right, other must get hotter. Vice verses. I have herp 2 with timer to accommodate this. He sleeps to 530. At 530 herp2 drops warm moist hide down allowing for other hide to go cool down to 90. In morning it switches back. So hide he's going in is correct temp
. Many when he gets up hes sets on cold floor. 80. Air temperature 84. On cold side. He's sets behind log with head poking out looking or in his little dirt pile . All on cold side. He has his out house were he backs in doses his business on that side. He does wounded over to hot side to lay on warm rocks .
My reason for this pm was know your thoughts on acida/ lighting your reptil vitamins?
I just order zoo stuff without d3. Months now I just been leaving him bowl with replach calcium pluse and zoo med with d3 togather. That's bad idea, to much d3. He does go to vitamin bowl and lick his vitamins. Should I leave him be with bowl or dust? Using your schedule dusting times? Is acida, light your reptil better for him or for crickets? I raise them myself.
Sorry for long sentences .
I will get photo up in week. If you could help with few questions. Assuming you can read them. Cecil and I would be thankfull. Thank you

 

[Seth9999]

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[Seth9999]

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[Elizabeth Freer]

Originally Posted by Seth9999
Hello, thank you for all info. It seems I've been making lot mistakes with Cecil, year old 100 gram, 9inch geco. My Boy.
I just joined this forum few days ago. Thought I was cruising with all his accommodations . Finely. Im not. Bigger the area , more complicated it gets. For me any way
. He's in 4' by 20 " I built. The bottom is wood and one side , back is wood, rest is plexiglass. It has two floors to accommodate the uth. I plane on adjusting his floor heating this weekend, cover bit more.. A heat grid is ideal, but my boy loves cold side and cold floor . It's been pain get heat right. Day time he chooses a warm moist hide, but bottom sets off ground. Heat that up , I have heat rest up around that area high.air temperature. 88. The dry warm hide sets next to it, it's sets on floor, no bottom. To keep one right, other must get hotter. Vice verses. I have herp 2 with timer to accommodate this. He sleeps to 530. At 530 herp2 drops warm moist hide down allowing for other hide to go cool down to 90. In morning it switches back. So hide he's going in is correct temp
. Many when he gets up hes sets on cold floor. 80. Air temperature 84. On cold side. He's sets behind log with head poking out looking or in his little dirt pile . All on cold side. He has his out house were he backs in doses his business on that side. He does wounded over to hot side to lay on warm rocks .
My reason for this pm was know your thoughts on acida/ lighting your reptil vitamins?
I just order zoo stuff without d3. Months now I just been leaving him bowl with replach calcium pluse and zoo med with d3 togather. That's bad idea, to much d3. He does go to vitamin bowl and lick his vitamins. Should I leave him be with bowl or dust? Using your schedule dusting times? Is acida, light your reptil better for him or for crickets? I raise them myself.
Sorry for long sentences .
I will get photo up in week. If you could help with few questions. Assuming you can read them. Cecil and I would be thankfull. Thank you

Hey Seth ~

Thanks for posting your message right here.

At 100 grams and 9 inches @ 12 mo Cecil could have giant genes! Please share Cecil's photo right away. Then I can suggest a supplement and feeding schedule. In the meantime only lightly dust with Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins with D3 @ 1 feeding per week and Zoo Med's Repti Calcium without D3 @ two other feedings per week. Definitely remove the vitamin bowl from his enclosure.

Cecil is really lucky to have such a giant enclosure! With a wooden enclosure and floor it's important to have a heat mat raised off the floor by some means. (Do you need some ideas?) Ventilation is also important. To promote good airflow, there should be ventilation low on one side and higher on the opposite side.

What type thermometer are you using? How tall is Cecil's enclosure?


Here's a temperature guide for all leopard geckos as measured with the probe of a digital thermometer (and controlled by a thermostat set at 91*F/32.8*C):

• 88-92 F (31.1-33.3 C) ground temperature right underneath a leo's warm dry hide
• no greater than 82ish F (27.8ish C) air temperature - 4 inches above ground on the warm end
• no greater than 75 F (23.9 C) air temperature - 4 inches above ground on the cool end

Leave the UTH on 24/7. At night turn off overhead lighting/heating (~12 hours on and ~12 hours off) unless ambient room temperatures drop lower than 67ish*F (19.4*C).

I've never used Arcadia lighting or their new EarthPro supplement line. Maybe [MENTION=55860]Zux[/MENTION] will venture by.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Is the top solid or mesh?

 

[Seth9999]

The thermometer is a prob type. I got from people who sold me herp2. Spider something, I think.
His flooring is one wood floor for plexiglass set on. Then a space were heating pad goes, then his floor made of plexiglass. There's a space between floor let uth have room to vent.
He has high ventilation but no low. I could put small vent in back, it's wood.
I'll upload picture soon. He just woke up. Went in night time hut. Hell be at door soon looking for dinner.

 

[Seth9999]

Top is mesh with frame around it, hinged on back. I get plants in and out threw top. I cover mesh 24/7 with blank cut to seize. I cut 3 holes in top blank to put one light, red, two ceramic heaters. If I uncover top, temp will drop way down.
Warm side has heat pad and ceramic heater on top, one red light just in corner , lighty for light and little basking heat. He's warm dry hide sets on ground. At night it's 100 , we're he goes for little while of an on. Next to it I'd moist hide , Wich bottom is knot right on ground, it's 3 and 1 hide, ceramic. It's 83 now. The temp is set for his hides , on were he's going be. In evening when he gets up, he mostly lays on cool floor on cool side. Maybe the air temperature to high.

 

[Seth9999]

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Top is mesh with frame around it, hinged on back. I get plants in and out threw top. I cover mesh 24/7 with blank cut to seize. I cut 3 holes in top blank to put one light, red, two ceramic heaters. If I uncover top, temp will drop way down.
Warm side has heat pad and ceramic heater on top, one red light just in corner , lighty for light and little basking heat. He's warm dry hide sets on ground. At night it's 100 , we're he goes for little while of an on. Next to it I'd moist hide , Wich bottom is knot right on ground, it's 3 and 1 hide, ceramic. It's 83 now. The temp is set for his hides , on were he's going be. In evening when he gets up, he mostly lays on cool floor on cool side. Maybe the air temperature to high.

You are a skilled craftsman!

I'm familiar with your 3-in-1 ceramic hide. I've got the former resin model that does sit right on the floor. It cracked, but my leo doesn't mind.

1. What dimensions is Cecil's heat mat? Ultratherm makes heat mats in 11 different sizes.
2. What are your room temperatures now and in the winter?
3. A dim low wattage bulb can provide a photoperiod during the day.
4. Possibly you could suspend ceramic heat emitters from the screen top or place more heat mats above ground between large tiles???
5. Place all overhead heat in 10 inch diameter domes (Fluker's), NOT the small dome fixtures you're using. Those spread out the heat more.
6. 100*F ground temp in his warm dry hide is too hot! Moist hide temps should be near 88-92 as well.
7. Suggested ventilation: high on the left side near the front (?) and low on the far right corner of the back

You could add a second level and more hides there. Additional heat mats can be sandwiched between 2 layers of tiles.


JIMI used bar glasses filled with pebbles as "legs".





If you build another enclosure, leos are fine with enclosures 12 inches tall. Those enclosures are easier to heat.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

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At 12 months old Cecil seems healthy, a bit chunky, and ready to transition to this schedule. If he doesn't grow longer, I'd either cut back the amount per feeding or just feed him twice weekly skipping the Saturday feeding.

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Weekly Schedule for Leopard Geckos 12 months old + (if they are in good shape)​

Crickets or dubia >> Monday - lightly dusted with Zoo Med Reptivite multivitamins with D3
Crickets or dubia >> Thursday - lightly dusted with Zoo Med Repti Calcium without D3
Mealworms >> Saturday - no dusting

Future weeks:
Continue on since all weeks are identical. . . . . .

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Click: Weekly Feeding Schedule + Zoo Med's Supplements for leopard geckos 18 months old +

 

[Seth9999]

Thank you for your reply. He is bit chunky. I think he's knot going bathroom enough . He skipped fri,sat,sun,mon and went Tuesday morning, a lot. Yesterday his belly was big. He went again Wednesday night, a lot. No food in few days. He didn't want any.
He's full off poop.
He's heating is wrong. Knot nearly enough floor heating. 1/4 of his 4 foot by 20 inches is flook is heated. I'm relying on to much on over head heat. Today I'm dig in and get floor ready to hold 2 foot by 18 inch uth. It heat tap. I bought 4 foot by two uth for his play pin. May use half that. Thinking heat rope may be better. He has plant sets in floor, rope be easier snake around that. Any witch way his floor heat will be improved to 1/3 suggested here.
He eats about everyday. He wakes up and goes scratch on his door, waiting for me feed him. I will cut back. Eats mainly crickets but has been eating more mealyworms. I don't think helps bathroom issue. I have horn worms and Phoenix worms coming. Think delivered today. Silk worms went right threw him , but out stock.
My home is 80 in day and 75 at night. Now.
Winter it gets cooler, knot sure yet. Thank you for information. I'll post improvements.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Thank you for your reply. He is bit chunky. I think he's knot going bathroom enough . He skipped fri,sat,sun,mon and went Tuesday morning, a lot. Yesterday his belly was big. He went again Wednesday night, a lot. No food in few days. He didn't want any.
He's full off poop.
He's heating is wrong. Knot nearly enough floor heating. 1/4 of his 4 foot by 20 inches is flook is heated. I'm relying on to much on over head heat. Today I'm dig in and get floor ready to hold 2 foot by 18 inch uth. It heat tap. I bought 4 foot by two uth for his play pin. May use half that. Thinking heat rope may be better. He has plant sets in floor, rope be easier snake around that. Any witch way his floor heat will be improved to 1/3 suggested here.
He eats about everyday. He wakes up and goes scratch on his door, waiting for me feed him. I will cut back. Eats mainly crickets but has been eating more mealyworms. I don't think helps bathroom issue. I have horn worms and Phoenix worms coming. Think delivered today. Silk worms went right threw him , but out stock.
My home is 80 in day and 75 at night. Now.
Winter it gets cooler, knot sure yet. Thank you for information. I'll post improvements.

You're very welcome.

Make the new heat mat at least 1/2 the length of the enclosure and from side to side as much as possible. Maybe up to 3 feet long for Cecil since you built him a 4 foot long home? Generally leos hang out on the warm end. I think he'll make good use of even 3 feet of warm floor.

How would you ventilate heat cables? The first 6 feet of heat cables are not heated. Definitely you can customize them.

Here's an example of heat cables in a 40 gallon breeder. The red cable model should provide a more gradual temp from warm to cool.


And some hornworm details ~~
Click: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...es-/68585-hornworm-guidelines.html#post391397

 

[Zux]

Hi there,

I apologies but I am struggling to follow the questions you are having about the Arcadia products, I have used/use almost all of them so can probably answer any specific questions you may have.

Just let me know.

 

[Seth9999]

Boy and I been busy. It's still bit Chaby to me, but it improving.
Green carpet hold 90 under is hut, outside his hut on carpet hold 88. The 3 in 1 cave holds 86, but I drilled nice size holes exactly were that hut goes. Try push more heat to it without jacking rest floor up. I blunted other hut with rug , keep 90 and no more.
2uth heaters on two thermostats . One is on cool side but just take chill off.

 

[Seth9999]

Boys soon be play pin. He's explored sofa to end. So I started put this together. It's still in early stages. But I will be able heat half floor. First he wanted out, like his home, but as I added to it, he wanted stay . some eco soil will come out. Needs desert area by slat. Still very early stage. I don't feed him on that bottom, I watch him closely. His food really needs be moveing for him eat. Dought he'll eat any soil.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Boy and I been busy. It's still bit Chaby to me, but it improving.
Green carpet hold 90 under is hut, outside his hut on carpet hold 88. The 3 in 1 cave holds 86, but I drilled nice size holes exactly were that hut goes. Try push more heat to it without jacking rest floor up. I blunted other hut with rug , keep 90 and no more.
2uth heaters on two thermostats . One is on cool side but just take chill off floor.
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Any way to turn your 2nd picture right side up?

How are you providing ventilation for all your UTHs?

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[Elizabeth Freer]

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Boys soon be play pin. He's explored sofa to end. So I started put this together. It's still in early stages. But I will be able heat half floor. First he wanted out, like his home, but as I added to it, he wanted stay . some eco soil will come out. Needs desert area by slat. Still very early stage. I don't feed him on that bottom, I watch him closely. His food really needs be moveing for him eat. Dought he'll eat any soil.

Just be careful. He could easily escape from his playpen.

 

[Seth9999]

Seems no on right side up picture idea at moment.
Plenty vent
Holes drilled in back wooden wall just for that. Bigger holes for cords go threw. Plexiglass, hope you can see, has many holes drilled in it. Big hole were plant goes threw. I may drill few more holes in wood bottom , be safe.
The top can vent threw top, it's knot all solid. Have 8.5 in hole in blanket , I just move. Cut pice to side of hole, and vent away.
I removed plastic tile. New floor on that side is tile rock. I will grout tomorrow. It's just cut in place at moment. Plant threw floor is challenging.
I'm extend tile flooring bit more. Give up some carpet. I wash and change out once week.

 

[Seth9999]

Geckos unlimited is busy with new set ups . Knot take any more time . I rescued this little, 5 gram gal or guy last Friday. Its in ten gallon atm. It's simple. As you can see temp is 91, under his dry hut. I dropped it bit. Little guy or gal end up in tank above, witch will alow me make new one for my boy, Cecil. With less mistakes. Its lucky I grabbed new member , last home went down hill even more. .

I am carefully with Cecil in play pin. I think I'll raise walls bit with plexiglass. Don't think he cares for sold walls anyway. Feels trape I think.

 

[Seth9999]

He's been vet. He's all by himself. Waiting on dna crpto test. And parasites test to. I were gloves feed him, soak hands in straight amonia,rinse then hydro proxid. Haven't blown up yet. Cecil been rechecked for same stuff again to, play it safe.
Sorry should add all that last post.