New tokay geckos!

Elizabeth Freer

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Hi ~

Nice purchase! :banana: How old are they?

You mention a pair. Are they old enough to tell for certain?

Please add "cover" and hiding places to their enclosure. That's super necessary. :) The photo you posted in a previous thread shows too much empty space. Silk foliage from Walmart's craft section helps. However, Walmart's foliage is not very "bushy". Remove leaves from some stems and add them to the initial cluster. They'll need lots of space to climb. Add corkbark slabs too.

Please add some Exo Terra twisty vines so they'll be able to explore everything.

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Boxraddict

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Hey

I have plans to upgrade the cover with mostly cork born slabs and a jungle vibe I have already. I want to get them the 24x18x36 soon too.

They are sexed from where I purchased them as a male and female I trusted the shop owner. They are not babies but as far as their exact age I wish I could remember. I’ll ask him today :)
 

Elizabeth Freer

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Hey

I have plans to upgrade the cover with mostly cork born slabs and a jungle vibe I have already. I want to get them the 24x18x36 soon too.

They are sexed from where I purchased them as a male and female I trusted the shop owner. They are not babies but as far as their exact age I wish I could remember. I’ll ask him today :)

Were you able to find out how old these tokays are? Can you add the jungle vine now?

You've got great plans to upgrade them in a couple months to a huge Exo Terra. I know how expensive those are! I'm concerned that they get along and have adequate humidity in the meantime.
 

Boxraddict

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I covered more of the space. Not the final scape keep in mind. I’ll attach a pic. I added bamboo and have larger pieces of cork arriving via mail tomorrow. I can throw in the vine today.

I contacted the man but not heard back yet today tho his business hours are shorter opens later on sundays so hoping few! I just said I wanted a male and a female specifically snd he had both sexes available according to him these were opposite sex.

I’m concerned a bit already they have eaten worms and crickets but not utilized the climbing much yet they like to stay close to the ground I hope all is ok. I’m spraying the cage 4x a day. I wonder if an exo 18x18x24 be a better temporary setup than a Zilla 40?
 

Elizabeth Freer

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I covered more of the space. Not the final scape keep in mind. I’ll attach a pic. I added bamboo and have larger pieces of cork arriving via mail tomorrow. I can throw in the vine today.

I contacted the man but not heard back yet today tho his business hours are shorter opens later on sundays so hoping few! I just said I wanted a male and a female specifically snd he had both sexes available according to him these were opposite sex.

I’m concerned a bit already they have eaten worms and crickets but not utilized the climbing much yet they like to stay close to the ground I hope all is ok. I’m spraying the cage 4x a day. I wonder if an exo 18x18x24 be a better temporary setup than a Zilla 40?

I'm glad they're both eating. :cheer:

I've never kept tokays.

Have you seen this care sheet I just found on Geckos Unlimited?

 

Elizabeth Freer

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Just read it

I didn’t know there are 24x18x24 without a doubt will likely do that instead.

Did you read the entire thread? Billewicz has kept many tokays!

It seems like a pair of tokays would really thrive in what you had originally planned: a 24 x 18 x 36 Exo!
 

Elizabeth Freer

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Here's a quote from billewicz on post 6 of the care sheet thread.

4) As other have noted, specifying enclosures at 18" tall will be fine for juvenile Tokay, but young adults will need 24" in vertical area in their first year. After that, Long term adults will need 30"+ to navigate comfortably.

I think it's only fair to tell would-be first time Tokay owners up front what they will need for housing so they can decide whether they will purchase or build in steps over time, or save on the total investment and buy/build one enclosure.

Based upon that advice, I'd set up your 18 x 18 x 24 as their temporary home instead of the 40 gallon breeder.
 
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Boxraddict

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I added the vines Elizabeth

Also I really don’t know if I’ll stress them by moving them before they’re settled into the new surroundings?

I ordered 2 more 18x18x24 but I kind of need them for my cresteds :(
 

Elizabeth Freer

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I added the vines Elizabeth

Also I really don’t know if I’ll stress them by moving them before they’re settled into the new surroundings?

I ordered 2 more 18x18x24 but I kind of need them for my cresteds :(
Thanks.

About what total length are these tokays? If you twist this vine on itself there is a thicker surface to climb upon.

When do you anticipate your tokay upgrade? Switching to an 18 x 18 x 24 now depends upon how well they're doing.

Please pay attention to lighting and heating recommendations in that care sheet . . . . . including billewicz's comments on post 6.
 
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Boxraddict

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8-9” in total length

And I did yes I read it thoroughly. Combing that right now there’s a 75w heat bulb + 2 house bulbs + 1 red bulb (night only).
I also am considering a heat mat stuck to the side of their next enclosure regulated by a thermostat. They can move to that side and away from it depending on how cool or how warm they need it. That I got from more caresheets.
 

Elizabeth Freer

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8-9” in total length

And I did yes I read it thoroughly. Combing that right now there’s a 75w heat bulb + 2 house bulbs + 1 red bulb (night only).
I also am considering a heat mat stuck to the side of their next enclosure regulated by a thermostat. They can move to that side and away from it depending on how cool or how warm they need it. That I got from more caresheets.

I've not had time to read up on best practices for heating or lighting. Geckos CAN see all visible light. Please consider using a ceramic heat emitter on a thermostat for night heat. CHEs produce heat but no light.

I've never been impressed with sticking a heat mat to the side of an enclosure. Since heat rises, little heat would warm the gecko's home.

Here's the link from the search I just did that shows many articles.

 
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Aimless

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I would definitely use a ceramic bulb for heat, and use it 24/7.

more height is always better for Tokays.

as far as age, the concern I have is that if they're subadults, they'll breed before the female is mature enough to handle the stress on her body. this could result in problems down the road. if she's not yet fully mature, they should be separated ASAP until she is.
 

Boxraddict

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Ok good info good, thanks you guys.

I plan to get them out of here within The next week. I have two extra large And one jumbo pieces of bark coming to cut up and use in different ways for their upgrade. Before I got them I researched them and found care videos on them and miscellaneous videos on them too. I got ideas from the setups I found on there.

I did redo the current one for now though. Below is the best I will do until get their tall tank.

Showed them to the vet they were sexed properly. Male and female which I already suspected when I looked at their undersides through the glass.
 

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Boxraddict

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I heard back from the shop they said those are near 3 years old.

Ok so one more
If I put them in an 18x18x24 it’d be temporary but still better then the old 40!
One more extra move

I am using a CHE
 

Elizabeth Freer

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I heard back from the shop they said those are near 3 years old.

Ok so one more
If I put them in an 18x18x24 it’d be temporary but still better then the old 40!
One more extra move

I am using a CHE

Excellent with the CHE!

When will you be upgrading to their spacious home? Will it still be a 24 x 18 x 36 inch Exo?

If you're upgrading soon, I'd wait.

If you're not upgrading till September, I'd "borrow" one of your new crestie 18 x 18 x 24 inch tall enclosures until then.
 
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